The Psychedelic Revolution

Yeah, I'm a little befuddled as well, Desos. You keep saying the world needs this, that should change, etc.,etc,. But the notion that everything is running pretty much as it should still seems to allude you. The shortcomings only exist in your mind and frame of reference.

You really need to get past your own interpretations of how things should be, and be grateful and awed by how they are.

I would really like to hear how you would go about implementing the changes that you feel need to be made to achieve a more harmonious balance. I mean a real world manifestation of your ideals.
Lay out how such a community would function.

Remember though people are people and they still all need eat, sleep, shit, piss, and fuck.
Often these "utopias" start to fail when dealing with those most basic human needs.

And there really doesn't have to be anything super mystical or spiritual concerning life and death, they just are facts of existence.
That is why I made reference earlier to how we have made such great strides to prolong life,and have more people survive into adulthood. By doing that alone we have unbalanced the scales of nature and are taxing the planet simply by virtue of the vast population.
Death is a blessing and should be met with joy and gratitude.
It is the flip side of life and needs to be revered as such.

 

Desos,
The irony is that it's all in your mind..................

 

That is also your power over it.

 

if you make small changes and show the people around you the power of these positive changes. it will spread and in turn will make the future much brighter if you just make that example. no work nesicarry just live

 

yes, thankyou

 

If we stay true to the ideal then we forget and betray what is right in front of us, and what is right in front of us is real live people.
Idealism is about compromise. Complete and total idealism is actually vile, because it neglects the real world.

 

The difference between belief and faith. Belief will only allow compliance. Faith is the trust that allows things to emerge.

 

So true. Like I said, people still need to eat,sleep,piss,shit and fuck.
Often the idealist tend to forget the day to day grind we face on this mortal coil.
That is why EVERY single Utopian society conceived of has failed miserably.

 

i like that "the day to day grind we face on this mortal coil"

do you care if i nag that and use it as lyrics?

 

Be my guest, but if it hits the top forty we'll talk again.

 

I just wanted to say that what you have written here is at extreme odds of what you were saying before about nature, and mankind's struggle to ward off the inevitable.

Birth and Death is a cycle through the opposites, two variations of the same thing, just like the seasons, and everything else in nature. Birth and Death IS nature, or at least symbolic of what nature is at it's core.

 

You must be prettier than me, when I say shit like mortal coil, I get reamed for it.

 

So you picked up on that too neodude, I knew something wasn't lining up right in Desos argument.

 

What can I say.

I think maybe it's that skinless, big toothed smile I have.

 

Grim reamer.

 

well, this has gone quite far away from the original topic, but it's still interesting. so disregard this as being part of what i'm saying about 'the psychedelic revolution.'

what i'm talking about is a spiritual dillema. it doesn't really have anything to do with our physical vessels here being destroyed, and remade. it has to do with the state of our spirit which causes such mundane lives to begin with. life and death occurs as the result of the state which our spirits are in, that permeates the current point in time, and the current reality. if it is us that permeates the world that is, we can also easily see that there is much suffering in the world. this suffering is not apart from us -- we are it. it is a reflection of our spirits. it is showing us the frail state which we are in, our need to improve, and our need to find true harmony.

and, i think that when i say nature, it gets vastly misconstrued what i really mean. when i say nature i am talking about the natural order of the cosmos, and the state in which humanity can live together with the rest of sentient life which populates existence. it also has to do with physical nature as well. this physical nature which we come from and have strayed apart from is no less than a guide of how we should live.

anyway, i'd really like to respond to all the posts here, but i've been busy lately. i'll try to get back to this when i can.

 

How do you know this?

Agreed, as is ecstasy, orgasm, solitude, envy, rage, anxiety, and bliss.

Or is it showing you nothing more than "thus!", showing you nothing more than what a blooming flower is showing you, and you are interpreting it the way you want, the way that fits in with your meritocratic spiritual worldview? How come you seem to "see" so much into these events that we don't? You talk about it like it's a plain fact; like, "DUH guys, can't you just SEE that all this suffering on earth is there to SHOW us how FRAIL we are and how much we need to IMPROVE". Dude, I hate to break it to you, but that is the interpretation of Desos. It is not what you are seeing, but what your mind is making from what you are seeing.

Right, so the past, current, and future state of affairs.

Wait, wait. I can swallow that you think we've strayed from our "spiritual nature". But now you're saying we've "strayed" from our physical nature? Dude, I never knew I was such a badass. Fuck you relativity, I'll break the speed of light and i'll give you the finger while doing it!

 

Population down and be hippies and harmony and let the cosmos do their thing, is what Desos is saying. I can at least entertain that idea worthy of a conversation.

 

Basically, it all breaks down to the fact that every half hour or so you should be puffing in a large toke of DMT....

 

I'm a melancholy man, that's what I am,
All the world surrounds me, and my feet are on the ground.
I'm a very lonely man, doing what I can,
All the world astounds me and I think I understand
That we're going to keep growing, wait and see.

When all the stars are falling down
Into the sea and on the ground,
And angry voices carry on the wind,
A beam of light will fill your head
And you'll remember what's been said
By all the good men this world's ever known.
Another man is what you'll see,
Who looks like you and looks like me,
And yet somehow he will not feel the same,
His life caught up in misery, he doesn't think like you and me,
'Cause he can't see what you and I can see.