The Psychedelic Revolution

come on you should be smoking this shit AT LEAST once a day if you want to maintain any kind of sanity.

 

i totally agree.

you give both away.

haha. yea. but still these are all things that should be taken into consideration when considering the human condition.

 

Desos, still sounding the battle cry I see.
The psychedelic revolution isn't over, the revolutionaries just grew up and affected change from within the societal structures in place. If not you would not have seen the civil rights movement, the end of the Vietnam war, the internet, advances in medicine, technology, and politics. You seem to be wanting radical change that you can point to and say "see, the psychedelic revolution in action". You are forgetting all the subtle changes that have taken place in the last 40 years as a result of the psychedelic revolution, and continue to occur.

The thing is my friend is you want to impose duality and opposition to everything.
That duality and opposition is the thing that is an illusion.
You always want to quantify experiences into good/bad, spiritual/non-spiritual, pain/pleasure, yet you still haven't broken through enough to realize that such distinctions only exist within your perceptions.

I think many of the folks who populate these forums believe to some degree or another that we are all manifestations of some higher being/consciousness. We are but pieces of are much larger whole and we are but momentarily experiencing individuality.
If that is the case then what purpose to existence?
I feel that experience is the purpose.
God experiencing creation through that which is created. The Law of Ra claims we are all manifestations of the source slowly progressing back to a union with this source. Actually most religious belief systems teach the same notion to one degree or another. Sounds reasonable enough.

Given that, then the act of being and experiencing is the crucial element here.
What we experience is irrelevant to the whole and only derives meaning when juxtaposed with some other experience. That is where humans get the notion of duality. But the experience of suffering is just as valuable and needed as the experience of pleasure and peace.
It's the experience itself that holds value. Whether we deem it positive or negative is inconsequential, it just is.

I think all we need to get humanity back on course with nature is a small to medium sized asteroid strike. Not big enough to wipe out the entire planet, just enough to disinfect it from the viral infection of humanity.
Wipe the slate and start over.

neodude, I like the mature tone and reasoned debate you are presenting here, as if my opinion means shit

Enough rambling from the old man.

 

glad to see your still around smith

 

du du du(trumpets sounding) charge! :biggrinjester: lol

but they won't continue to occur if the majority of the new generation is stagnant. after the end of the vietnam war people became stagnant. they became divided because the common battle cry of the war was no longer needed because people were not having their liberties taken away and sent off to go die in a war they didn't understand. but if we are truly to understand things then we are to understand that our liberties are that fragile ALL THE TIME. not because there is immediate threat. it's quite magnificent, actually, the structure that the authorities that be have constructed -- tricking minds into thinking they are actually making a difference when truly they are just falling into more dead ends.

oh i realised that a long time ago. i just like to stir things up. infact, i don't like the whole cosmic order. i'd have it changed. union with the source so we can perpetually recreate and experience so we can be unified again gets ever so dull. it's quite cruel, really.

glad to hear from you again old friend.

 

Oh, I've been lurking around.
Notice lots of new faces with the same old questions.
Not much point responding when a search will provide the answers they seek.

 

I guess one thing is the fact that you and many others in this forum were born into and have grown up in a world that had already been changed by the "psychedelic revolution" so maybe they aren't as apparent to people your generation. There are a lot of very subtle paradigm shifts that have occurred and continue to occur.

I agree, maybe we could get a petition started and if we get enough signatures we could convince God to change the functioning of all existance. I'm in, I'll be first to sign.

 

wohoo. that makes two.

 

but here's a thought(i'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this). it isn't going to happen apart from unity on earth. obviously our god agrees with us being that we were once in an edanic state before luscifer was sent and granted us free will. so the one issue is directly related to the other. because currently in our fragmented state we have no strength whatsoever. so we wait...

so before i go and say too much i'll leave it at that.

 

Ehhh, I'm still going to go with the asteroid strike.

 

It sounds real nice on paper Desos, except for the fact that it's all a big lie.

 

You lost me on that one, I wasn't aware you and I were even debating, much less me calling your opinion shit?

 

No,no,no,
I was commenting on your concise and sound arguments in this thread in general. What I meant was my opinion regarding your posts, who cares what PB thinks. I was calling my own opinion shit.
Like who am I to give praise or derision regarding your postings.

It was a compliment.
You still kinda defensive towards me ?

 

No I just didn't understand what you meant, that's all.

 

I hope my meaning is clear now.

 

http://www.maps.org/media/playboy_the_psychedelic_renaissance_CT_0.pdf

March 23, 2010. Playboy. "The New Psychedelic Renaissance." (PDF) By Steve Cotler.

This fantastic article discusses MAPS' role in the new psychedelic renaissance, and features a lengthy and detailed interview with Rick Doblin, Ph.D., MAPS Executive Director. ..

enjoy... though if anyone has html link Id like it.. :coffee:

 

Great link orison!

See Desos the Psychedelic revolution isn't dead, it just grew up.
That is what I was alluding to previously, that a lot of the "hippies" are now CEO's and board members, and research scientists, Doctors, lawyers, and maybe even politicians.

The psychedelic revolution is still going strong, even stronger because rather than dirty, raggedly clothed, long-hairs crying out for reform concerning these substances, it's being done by people who grew past the adolescent revolutionary phase into positions of power and respect. That is how progress is being made, not by a bunch kids dropping at a festival. That approach was what got LSD declared illegal.

You know how water can split a boulder by seeping into the cracks and freezing?
It's by that slow, subtle, quite yet consistant effort that lasting change is brought about.

Loudmouths and self-proclaimed prophets declaring LSD as a savior of mankind is what didn't work first time around.

Work by groups like MAPS is great because when they get the statistics and research to prove that LSD and Psylocibin are effective medical treatments for cluster headaches, then the Schedule 1 status HAS to be changed.
That is what is going on for marijuana right now.
Slow, steady, and respectable is the way to change the drug laws.

 

"The first mistake was idealism. The mistake was thinking because you had seen it, you could just go like *that* and everyone else would see it. And you could just say 'it's all love' and everyone would just love. I mean that, it was naivete. It was not working on ourselves deeply enough to be without the clinging of mind, that made us try to use it; it was our lurking righteousness that got in the way."

- Ram Dass, Prague Gnosis 1992

 

Actually this path would lead very quickly to what we could call insanity, or at least strained sanity, sanity surviving only through conscious application of effort to stay back the maelstrom.

It's medicine, but not all medicine is linked to the perceived solar cycles of this planet. A lot of medicine is linked to the function it is designed to alter; don't smoke DMT at x:00pm every night, rather, smoke DMT when you feel that it's time to smoke DMT. Hopefully you haven't convinced yourself this is too often.

 

haha i've only done a very small of DMT just once^