The Psychedelic Revolution

I think all of the arguments against women leaders are just a mask for societal prejudice. There are generalizations that can be made about genders, but it's simply prejudice to be judged on anything other than an individual basis. I've known some women that are more competitive in the business world than any man. Same in relationships. It applies to politics, religion, or any other group interaction.

Specific to the 3 areas you mention, they all have similar power structures set up that require people to compete, often without regard for their competition, to get in a leadership position. It's rare to impossible for an outsider to gain recognition. Once prejudice is less, women will be in a more fair competition, but I believe the women who will succeed will have many of the same qualities as the men that do today.

 

The illusion of form and delusion of mind are not the same thing. In a societal context it matters that you be found agreeable or not. Practice and ability are not the same thing. What real effect does an amateur boxer have against a more proficient professional except to loose and contribute to strength? In the continuum of current emergence, how do you measure an event? I think the false belief that you can save lives is what keeps us making the same useless investments.

 

I'm glad you included this bit. It's not just the outsider status though, but also stereotype bias. The positions aren't handed out by merit alone, there is an element of personal opinions that go into it. And personal opinions can be influenced by bias, even sometimes when one doesn't notice it.

Nifty example of this: With open auditions for orchestral positions, women tend to have a much worse chance of getting a slot. Once ratios of men and women are accounted for, each man has about twice the odds of being picked then each woman, on average. So if there were an even number of men and women auditioning, 2/3 of the seats would end up male, on average. However, if the auditions are done blind, with the player behind a screen, each woman ends up with a 20% -higher- chance of being picked then each man. Likely because, do to the inherent bias, the less skilled women are less likely to audition, not to any higher natural talent in women.

But I think it illustrates bias in action pretty well.

 

i think that the fact that we will probably have a female president in 2012 will help this situation out a bit. perhaps.

all i know is that females are so much better than males. they're just so cool. i love the female nature.

 

Shrug, males are pretty awesome too, IMO.

We need a new topic. Anyone? Back to the actually psychedelic revolution? How to get gatherings of heads happening in a serious way again? I mean, all we seem to have now is tiny little clusters of people, and the rave scene. And it doesn't seem like the rave scene has quite got a revolutionary bent to it.

 

Dude you gotta fuse it all together. you gotta mix the raves with the Bonnaroos, and create something completely unique and authentic. There's a start for the topic...

 

Just take EVERYTHING and use it towards your advantage for the revolution. Of course, not everyone is going to be down for it. But that's fine. Countercultures never include everyone. Plus, for a real revolution, you've got to get rid of that us vs. them mindset anyway man. Get rid of the duality. We've had tons of revolutions with that mindset, and they worked for a short amount of time and then crumbled. The only problem with the hippies is they had that edge of us vs. them. You can still be a counterculture that's doing your own thing but not be against anyone. There's a lot of power in that i think. We shouldn't be trying to recreate the hippie revolution but simply using that as a stepping stone for something completely new and unknown and unprecedented. And i think revolutions need to crumble quickly anyway. I don't know if i'd want it any other way. Enjoy it while it's there and let it die when it's ready to. Don't try to sustain it. We're not really in as much control of it as we think we are anyway. We're simply the expression and instrument and the manifestation of a cosmic force IMO.

Don't be against ANYTHING at all. Just figure out what you're FOR. and just stick with that. People will get in your way along the path, but that's just humans for ya. It's part of the path.

But take everything, even if its just tinges, and use it towards this revolution. Then you have a LOT to work with. You're open to anything, but you're not grasping anything either. And just keep following it...

2012 man. that's all i can say. It IS the next revolution. But of biblical proportions this time...

But that doesn't mean we sit on our asses and wait for 2012 to roll around. As far as i'm concerned, it's already brewing right now as we speak. What do you think this forum is? 62 pages? Things such as the internet give access to a vast amount of people and all these words enter countless people's consciousness in an instant. Things are accelerating and speeding up, and getting very vast and interconnected. And the pressure is getting more immense and intense. I know that i'm not the only one who feels this.

I could even see this next revolution to include extra-terrestrials and the rest of the galaxy. A cosmic fucking revolution.

 

Oh, I'm not against anything, I don't think...

Well, I suppose I'm somewhat opposed to some ideas(hence the last 15 pages), but I think almost everyone will be that. But not against any particular culture. Particularly not the rave scene, that's where I spend most of my free time these days.

As for revolutions crumbling quickly.. Dunno. I don't want any revolution to come along and sweep all of society away. Chaotic upheaval needs balance in order to keep from sliding into total mayhem. Anarchy doesn't seem too much fun, would just give rise to the warrior kings all over again, and undo the last 500 years of hard work slogging our way out of the dark ages.

I'd just love to see threads of ideas, concepts that hold the imagination, manage to jump the generation gaps.

 

Eternal Timelessness. They'll always be there, it's all just a matter of spontaneously tapping into it. And for no reason either, other than the mere fascination with it. If that makes any sense...


Where are you from? how old are you? What raves do you delve into? i'm not trying to stalk you, i'm just wondering. I'm curious. like a cat. a ChinaCat

 

Lol, I live in the SF Bay, I'm 33, and I go to undergrounds mostly

 

Girls are gross. This is a fact. Scientists have found that women are 287% more likely than men to have contracted cooties in their lifetime.

Female president in 2012? Get real.

 

uhh...you get real. Hillary Clinton will probably run for president in 2012 and will probably win.

obviously one can't know, but you're acting like it's some way far-fetched idea. when it's not.

 

Considering the first part, I think he just might be joking. A lil.

 

Are you sure?, He didn't say BAZINGA!

 

Or not. Why would Hillary Clinton be running in 2012? Is Obama dead by then?

Republicans do not have a good female candidate for president.

It won't happen.

 

How would you recognize "it". Reality is always current. We are already locked in. We already function well. Love, supreme being, the source, God, whatever you want to call it, everywhere at once, being without discrete position, is beyond what can be taught. But we can dissolve the barriers we have erected to the perception of it.

 

i don't think that is unreasonable in the slightest. that seems like it would be essential.

but you can't blame me for giving you such a hard time over the feminine issue. the feminine movement has it's merits, but in alot of ways it has advanced into issues where it is just becoming excessive. the movement has alot of potential to get out of control. because like i said. alot of women claim to want equality, but what they really want is complete control. it is very easy to think that you are being cheated out of something, when you really aren't. i think that alot of women don't realise that they are treated as equals to begin with.

and for what it's worth, that wasn't really getting off topic, like you said these are all things that need to be discussed.

by recognition of their ability by the people they would represent. their ability in making sound rational decisions, and their grace in handling more responsibility, and their ability in having good relationships with people and having already 'been around the block' so as to guide people through some of the pitfalls of life.

i think the rave scene isn't contributing to much. partying isn't going to bring social change. we need something where there is a real energy where people can really grow and experience spiritual as well as social change. a place where people don't just go home after the show is over, and isn't so bound by the confines of money.

imo, groups of people living together with a dedication to eachother is the only way.

 

i think, that it would be important that if anyone came into any kind of power that they would not be hyper-competetive. but rather they would be totally content not being in that position, and be without selfish desire.

that's the whole problem with alot of the authority in common society. people are just power crazed. it doesn't work to have people in authority that are hyper-competetive and craving more power. that is what leads to corruption.

 

I think the problem is people throw away their power as though they never had it.

 

what do you mean? care to elaborate? examples?