For sure. Yea i basically just needed a break, and a chance to step back and look at how comical and epic that this debate is. It's good to be serious and lighthearted about it all simultaneously. It gives me Mr. Writer vibes for some reason. I'll catch back up to pace a little later on tonight.
How many times will you awaken and then sleep again? How many times will you eat the same foods? How many times will you think on a certain thought? Isn't it all starting to get old? From a certain point of view, all of life is beating a dead horse. All philosophy certainly is. Yes, you've had this conversation before. So have I. That doesn't mean the conversation is done. If you are done with it for now, then maybe move on. Personally, I rarely tire of contemplation, of thinking through different ideas about the universe, the meaning of meaning, of God and science and life and creation. I rarely tire of reading or listening to other's takes on things, even when I disagree. And I almost never tire of hearing myself speak on such. How many times will we ask the same questions, how many times will we recombine the different possible answers? I think we will continue until the questions themselves are no longer meaningful. And by then, perhaps we'll just have different questions we ask over and over. And really, it's a psychedelic thread. I'm thrilled to see people pondering these kinds of questions in conjunction with lsd. In my day to day life, my main interaction with psychedelics is baby-sitting rave kids, and the occasional basically solitary foray of my own. I haven't got a lot of people to talk about this sort of thing, in person. So this is kinda nice really. Even, in fact especially, with an old timer like yourself. I'm so used to being the old fogey, it's nice to not be some times.
Geez, it was just a little chuckle. Don't take yourself so seriously and you and I will get along just fine. :cheers2: If you hadn't noticed yet, I try to interject a little humor into these things mainly because they ultimately boil down to personal opinion, and as such I laugh at myself as well as everyone else at how friggin' serious we can get about it when in truth none of has the answers to most of these 'questions', yet we all like to act as if we do, myself included. If you can't step back and get a good laugh at it all and your own seriousness (generally, not you specifically) then you are already screwed. I also enjoy these type of discussions and self-exploration (get your mind out of the gutter). As a matter of fact I used to be the long-winded one in these type of forays, but I gladly hand that crown over to you. Reading some of your other posts I hear echoed many, many of the same sentiments that I have expressed in these forums and a few times the same words. But there does come a time to pull up stakes and move on to another topic of discussion, they can and do get played out. So to clear it up; in the words of Sheldon: BAZZINGA!! (that denotes that the previous statement was a joke)
Yea i agree. I enjoy just exhausting the question to the point that it leads to a new question, or new answers, and the question just falls away all by itself, without even trying to drop it. I'm all about exhausting myself. Just out of general curiosity, how old are you? And i've caught myself up a bit here. I'm soaking it all in. And i don't really have very much to say at the moment other than i think the latest slate in the last few pages has some very good insights by both you and Desos regarding the whole masculinity and feminine shit. I agree with both of you in a lot of ways. But yea, i love just going at it. Even for just the sake of going at it. Just to contemplate existence is a joy in its own. I don't really get tired of it either, and i hope i never do. And its so damn vast that you have so much to work with. Yes i do take my questions seriously, but it's equally as powerful and also enjoyable to simultaneously be comical about the whole thing, as PB Smith has pointed out. It's good to just have that perfect balance so that when you get lost with some existential insight or question that you have no problem to just drop the whole thing and go ride your bike or something. The best thing i can say at this moment is to remain so very vast. Use everything, but hold nothing as sacred. Then it becomes a playground for you to create your own meanings. I feel like the way of the future for human beings, if there is going to be one, rests in one word. Creativity. But i mean there's also Love, Joy, Authenticity, Unity, etc
Well, that settles then. Close this thread and we can all die knowing that someone named Plant_Head set us all straight. Thanks dude, don't know where we would be without you. Sheesh think of all the time I wasted when the answer was right there all the time, just fuckoff. so simple and transcendent that it is the embodiment of beauty.
Honestly, if you take life and all it's wonders to seriously then you have removed the awe and magic from it. Sit back and experience it without having to understand it. Much like "letting go" during a psychedelic journey, failure to be able to do so just leads to misery
Then why philosophy or existence, and if this is an isn't, how the fuck does it, or isn't, register with you?
Yea, i agree, PB. But usually, just from my natural nature, the letting go just tends to automatically lead to some sort of existential contemplation or conversation...especially during psychedelic voyages but certainly not limited to it. But it's all out of curiosity and joy and awe and wonder. Part of the experience is the trying to understand it. And then other times it's simply walking down the road and gazing at the sky and the trees and getting the inner mystic vision.
what do you mean exactly? Just taking the question at face value. Yes, i do very much enjoy talking and conversing and sharing ideas.