The promotion of meat eating and dairy consumption

thank you guys for clearing my questions up.

for the record, i wasn't very upset, simply trying to make a point that someone's opinion should matter no matter what their age, race, sex, etc.

this really isn't about conspiracy anymore, i've noticed. we're pretty much just artguing about the pros/cons of meat eating and/or vegetarianism. just takin' note.

 

1) I don't think most animals could be viewed as sentient.
2) Fuck PETA. Seriously, fuck PETA like fuck pro-lifers that protest with signs covered in abortion pictures.
3) The govt supports the meat industry because it makes them money. It might be expensive to produce steak, but they have us eating all the industrial waste. Cheese, GELATIN, etc.
4) As far as a conspiracy is concerned, it is only the influence of advertising, which has evolved greatly over the years into a pervasive force in society. Mostly a force for the manipulation of consumers, which is bad.
5) And as for lobsters/shellfish, it's like swine. Disgusting bottom feeders have no place on my menu.

 

I want to start an ad campaign for the rights and protection of vegetables. I'm appaled at the lack of care, consideration and thought given to these misunderstood living things. If you can hurt a plants feelings, does it matter if it has nerve endings that allow it to feel pain when harvested or not???

Seriously though, the point I was trying to make is that there are absurd points to every argument. It really doesn't matter which side you're on, there are scientific arguments to back you up. The point isn't so much what you eat, it's that you do it responsibly. I've grown a lot of my own food and I love my produce. I love to eat it too. I hunt most of the meat that I consume and I won't take an iffy shot. I want a clean kill with minimal pain. I'm an omnivore, but I do go through long vegetarian spells because I don't feel like hunting and won't hardly buy processed meat.

As for the government conspiracy, I don't think it really qualifies as a conspiracy because everyone is aware of whats going on, or at least they should, the info is out there.

 

I empithise with a vegan's concern for animals, but as Peter Singer says, it is not a question of killing animls but how they are treated when they are alive. Anyway I don't see any conspiracy about promotion of meat and dairy products per se. Could you give some examples? I would say there is a promotion of low fat diets in order to sell more low fat milk products. See,
http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148007

However when it comes to first grade meat and full fat dairy , there is not need to promote as such products already sell well anyway.

 

I just read that in a study, with 8,000 subjects, a child with a vegetarian mother is 5 times more likely to be born with birth defects than with a meat eating mother.

 

I empithise with a vegan's concern for animals, but as Peter Singer says, it is not a question of killing animls but how they are treated when they are alive.

I have read Singer's book, Animal Liberation, and he never says that it is "not a question of killing animals" in fact, he finds a major fault in the killing of animals which is why he himself does not hunt or raise his own meat. Also, he claims that the harvesting of animals is in almost every case wasteful and simply selfish. May want to look into his theory a bit more.

 

we all need to breath and realize we need to start localizing food, water, wildlife, plantlife or we are all going to die because trucks will stop coming.

 

Aaaaahhhmmmmen!!!!

 

I think this is the solution to most major modern life problems.

 

Two things for sure..........we all need to breath......and we are all going die.........lol

 

Not all of us will die. The strong and intuitive will survive. Those that are clouded will simply die before they understand what happened.

 

This the Concpiracy forum. The OP was about a consipriacy to promote meat and dairy products. The discussion has wandered into an animal rights debate.

Agribuisness treats both animals and plants as components in a far flung factory. Basicaly, it turns petroleum (artificial fertilizer & trasportation fuel) and sunlight into food, rather than letting sunlight and life make our food. Both veg*ians and omnivores are consumers of this system. (How many vegans take nutritional suppliments that are petroleum based?)

Either veg*ians and omnivores can excuse themselves from it by eating local organic food. I stress "local", because agribuisness has taken to growing things in non-sustainable industrial ways without using pesticides. An "Organic" label is not enough if you want to avoid agribuisness food.

I'm not sure that the rise of agribuisness, which took place in front of our faces (if we cared to look), qualifies as a conspiracy.

 

But what is the ulterior motive of meat and dairy promotion?

 

The government is scared of hippies! And they probably have ties with the big Agro and meat producing companies such as Monsanto and ConAgra.

 

To sell lots and lots of cows. But, if you want to get parinoid about it;

Agribuisness wants us to adopt a diet that can be satisfied with growing few source crops. If everything we eat is based on corn and wheat production, then they, by controlling corn and wheat seed, transportation and processing, profit everytime anyone eats anything.

However, the big profit is not in supplying the crops, but in processing the crop. In their eyes, a cow is a corn processing device. By increasing our meat consumption, they are shifting our eating towards those foods that generate the most profit for them.

Pre-packaged, individual portion food is good for their bottom line. Microwavable food that is child friendly is an expanding market. Children have started exerting buying power younger and younger, thus the people who decide how a family spends its money have less and less experience in detecting the common advertising gimicks. (A 9 year old will be more impressed with an included toy than a 12 year old.) The less work the consumer does in the kitchen, the greater the profit for the company. Selling to kids, who arent trusted in the kitchen to do more than run a microwave, is an obvious profit maker.

"Happy cows make Happy Meals"

 

"If we weren't meant to eat animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat"

W.C. Fields

 

as long as chicken tastes good, I will continue to eat it regardless of how unhealthy it is or even if it is radioactive/diseased.

 

I really hope that was a joke, cause it might be the stupidest thing I've heard in a while.


Humans are made of meat, are you gonna eat us?

 

I believe it was a quote.

There's a place for every animal. Right next to the potatoes is usually a good place.