The opposite sex

i do not find the human body "gross" in an manner. i am a nudist and i am comfortable around nude bodies of any type male, female, trans, or any size and shape. i believe it is quite immature for gay men to say they find a woman's body gross. we are all attracted to different types. why don't we live and let live?

 

Ok please stop now, your repeating yourself, we don't need to hear it again
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i know now you're being deliberately obtuse & hurtful, jeffrey. there's no reason for it. women get enough crap about the shame of their period and such. WHY do you feel pleasure in being awful.

 

Ok i do sincerely apologise for that...to be honest i had a bad experience in science class and i admit it grossed me out...im sorry for saying anything negative about menstruation...its my problem no-one elses. I genuinely didnt mean to be offensive on this and i can see why your pissed off about this..again i didnt mean to cause offence, no i dont mean to be hurtful or come across as awful i can genuinely tell you its purely down to ignorance...i dont know any better. Maybe as a gay guy i lack tact and cannot relate to women and their emotions...all i do is eat, sleep, drink, fantasise about guys...guys dominate my world which is probably a bad thing as i get so little female perspective on things..Maybe thats coming across in my views...im only 17 so i have plenty to learn and explore new things...being more open to a females side of things may definitely be one of those things. I accept now that i was disrespectful about menstruation and i do apologise...its ignorance nothing more..i would never intentionally try to be hurtful or spiteful..if i did i would be one very sad sorry individual with no compassion. This is a very very contentious issue about the opposite sex and maybe i went slightly of course when i referred to menstruation...my views on the vagina dont need repeating as Samhain will testify...for that i dont apologise as i said nothing wrong..it was complete honesty...for the other thing i can see why you were upset over that...it did come across as mean and quite spiteful so i can assure you i didnt intentionally do it like that...again it was ignorance of the subject on my part.

 

i'm going to give you an example, and even i, not a gay man, understand as just plain nasty. when i read it, i thought of you immediately, because you are the same person inside as SOME of these guys. you call it honesty, when all it is is ugly, mean, and misinformed. READ the comments on this article. every time you feel that completely unfair and insensitive sling or arrow, feel the woman's pain. because any time a woman displeases a man, we get to hear about the "odor." which is totally unfair, since i've caught more than one man sniffing my undies in ecstasy: http://forums.dmregister.com/viewtopic.php?t=52904&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

honestly, jeffrey, don't YOU want at least ONE PLACE where you aren't just a symbol, and object of scorn SOMEWHERE? where someone can be called on their shit, where you know there are people who have your back? people who won't let someone jump your ass just because of ONE thing about you they don't like? i'm tired, man. i'm sick of fighting.

 

join us, jeffrey. it could be BEAUTIFUL. just a little peace. a special place. that's all.

 

Hi All....Will Try And Keep This Short And Sweet......Well From Where I'm Sitting .......Having Read This Thread Over and Over.......The Only Crime Jeff Seems To Have Commited, Is That Was Totally Honest In His Reply........The Original Post Asks....Do Their Naked Bodies Repulse You ???? He Answered "Yes".......The Thread Then Continues O.K.... Till Mama Chimes In (sept26) ..........Mama....My Definition Of "Repulsive" Are Your Comments (oct1st.11.13) Quote.......He Loves To Lube Mine Up ......Loves Just Rolling Around On It Like A Pig In A Wallow.....My Puss Has Been Popular...Both Scent And Formation. Thank You For Sharing Those Images With Us!!!!......REPULSIVE and DIGUSTING.........Would Love To Comment On Other Posts But Clearly Time And Space Do Not Permit. Jeff Describes Himself As 17 And Maybe Immature. I Have Taken The Time To Read His Posts On Other Forums....And Yes He Writes As A Young Man With "A Pride And Passion For Being Gay".....Immature....NO !!..........Now To Conclude My Rant And Lighten Up A Bit.....A Joke........"What Is Difference Between A Butch Lesbion And A Bull Terrier...........answer.....The Bull Terrier Eventually Releases It's Grip On You!!!!!!.............Peace Love And Cheers.......Glen. (climbs into flameproof suit and waits for the inevitable fireball and explosion)!!!!!!!!

 

Jeffrey i would have prefered to have done this in Pm, but because you can't recieve them, I'm going to ask you on the thread

there is something that has been bothering me for a while here, do you have difficulty communicating with people?

Because I have noticed on this thread that you are repeating yourself over and over again, for example we have heard you had a hard time in science class about 4 times.
you also seem to have a fixed view of how you see the world and how everyone else should see it and once safe in this view you work from that, even if it means you don't take into account other people options.

you seem to have little or no understanding about the impact what you say has on other people and go as far to just repeat what you have said in an attempt to get them to understand YOU.

If other people on this thread disagree with you, then we are being unreasonable and closed minded everytime

This isn't me having a go at you Jeffrey, its my attempt to try and understand you more, if it is true you have communication difficulties then we can work with that whilest accepting that your part of this community.
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I have not been a part of this thread, but Samhain, that is a wonderful post.

 

you missed quite a bit that got deleted. i was DEFINITELY provoked, and most people who were here know it.

but i'm not a butch lesbian, seems unfair to those who are to designate myself as one.

 

what would being a butch lesbian have to do with anything, anyway? is that just another "i'm better than you" comment? seems to be a lot of that.

btw, the right word for my quotes would be "deliberately revolting."

 

Pleeeeeeeze Sam...Don't Patronise The Boy....It's Demeaning To Him.
He Doesn't Have A Communication Problem As You So Quaintly Describe It....It's Just That He Has Been Hounded Into A Corner By A Pack Of Bloodthirsty Posters On This Thread, That To Be Honest, Should Know Better.
The Only Reason Jeff Has Had To Repeat Himself Four Times Is Because Nobody Can Pause Long Enough From The Almost Relentless Attacks On Him To "ABSORB" What The Boy Is Trying To Say.............For Gods Sake,If You Treated Me The Same Way, I Would Have " Packed Up My Pearls"......"Told You All To Piss Off", And Gone Home Many Pages Ago...........Please, We Should Be Trying To Encourage ...Young...Honest...Upfront Guys To Speak Their Mind On Here..........Not Doing Our Best To Grind Them Into The Ground.

Peace..Cheers..And A Big Group Hug Everyone....Glen...........(posts reply, then dives face first on the ground as the sound of an automatic shotgun whistles past his ears........damn it can get dangerous posting on this forum)

 

it has turned into a hatfields and mccoys situation. i stil think jeffrey's been a jerk, though. i can live with it.

 

jeffrey caused a lot of offence by calling the female form repulsive and gross, and not only that he was homophobic against lesbians.

to put the shoe on the other foot, if i kept on telling you (in great detail) again and again how off-putting a penis is and how disguting and gross semen is, you'd understand how i feel when he talks about the vagina and menstruation.
i'm proud of my body and i feel i have to say something about it if my body is being insulted.
i'd be exactly the same if a lesbian made offensive comments about a man's penis.

and no-one has attacked him relentlessly. i recall posting a general notice (after the first time he posted) saying that i found some of the comments made in the thread offensive and i said it in a polite way, not attacking him.
other members told him this tooin other points in the thread, but he has posted exactly the same offensive comments over and over.
in the end it is obviously going to get on your nerves.

P and L.
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Oh my god you can read me like a book, you touched a nerve there, i DO have great difficulty communicating with people...see due to my sexuality and other things that i dont wanna go into im in a confused state...I'm constantly worried what others think of me...i suffer from hyper anxiety and bouts of depression.,..im on medication for that and i have cognitive therapy sessions coming up that will answer a few questions for me. Yes your right, you've read me very well...i do struggle with communication hence my need to constantly reinforce my point. I dont apologise one iota for my comments on the vagina...i do apologise for my comments on menstruation as that was out of order and i can see why that has upset one or two people. The subject of this thread called on how we honestly view the opposite sex...i stand firmly by by initial comments as those are the views of me as well as many gay guys i know both at gay clubs and other forums. IN MY experience that is how gay guys view the opposite sex and we'd dont apologise for it....it doesnt lessen our respect for the opposite sex...this is a contentious issue and was always gonna bring up confrontation.

 

Appreciate the support Glen but alot of what they say is true...the only thing i deliberately done that was out of order was calling all lesbians ugly...i apologise for clearly shit stirring there...its only in my experience that ive not seen an attractive lesbian...i honestly dont have a gripe with them...why should i, they are gay like i am. On menstruation i was out of order but not deliberatly so...it was simply a lack of tact and ignorance on my part...again i apologise for that...but i will not apologise for my honest views on the opposite sex..if you cant handle that side of the debate then you shouldnt be in it...Ive talked to gay guys both in clubs and on forums and its been pretty unanimous that we share pretty much the same view. Thank you.

 

Firstly, read Jeffreys reply to me and secondly don't ever speak to me like that again
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Jesus give him a break...get off your high horse., he was only expressing his opinion. Thats the problem ive seen with this forum...open and honest views get lambasted..yeah sure there are some that are wrong and inappropriate, but that never gets overlooked. I bet im the most honest one here...i dont hide ever froim what i say or believe...it wouldnt be hard as everyone on here is pc to the extreme..thats all fine and well but you never get honest forthright OPINIONS that way....be real. I apologised for my views outside of the thread topic...thats clear...if someone cant accept my genuine apology than theres nothing more i can do..case closed. My views on the thread topic were just and proper..it called for an honest opinion so thats what i gave. End off.

 

Just close this son of a bitch.

 

i can easily forgive. i know i go off like a terrier when i get angry or feel hurt. i've spent much of my life pretending hurtful comments and beatings didn't hurt, having that "thick skin." but i'm not running away anymore. i'm not going to back off when i've been abused.. but i'm a much more forgiving person than most people can know. youth, inexperience, empathy not yet learned, i can forgive all of it if the person who hurt me (and my friends) is sincere in their efforts to evolve in sensitivity.

i've been as honest as i can be. i'm sick of being trashed, insulted, verbally abused, physically abused and marginalized. i'm not going to put up with it ever again. but though i have a low flash-point, i get over shit pretty quick. i don't hold grudges, i don't stay mean. for me getting mad and expressing it is the end of it. i'm not going to be that passive/aggressive doormat ever again. all that does is continue the abuse by allowing it.