The opposite sex

just so we're clear that was a thread Jeffrey made that was deleted
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i really wish i could have seen this thread before it got deleted.

after hearing about this thread, i'm sorry but i've changed my thoughts on Jeffrey completely... i thought he was probably just a tad immature and also as he was surrounded by gay men who thought they same way he didn't when he was offensive.
but now... to me he's just a troll.


mamakcita, to clarify, none of my previous post was targetted at you - i reread my post and noticed it could seen to be attacking you.

 

i didn't feel you were, so no worries.

 

OK Peeps...truth is im 17...am i immature??..hell yeah...am i HONEST...hell yeah. Some people dont wanna hear brutal honesty...i know ALOT of gay men who are grossed out by a females genitalia...take alook at this thread...

http://forums.govteen.com/showthread.php?t=227824

Thats just a small straw poll, the general consensus believe the vagina to be somewhat repulsive...it looks utterly disgusting. Yeah i asked the question are lesbians in general ugly...ive yet to see a good lookin lesbian in my life...i go to gay clubs and the women there are very butch and look like shot putters..hideous...in general the best looking women are straight....in my 17 years existance i dont think ive ever seen a lesbian who is has a pretty face. You cant say the same about gay guys..there are so many good looking gay guys..myself included...LOL. No i aint a troll thankyou very much, and no im not a revolting terrible person...am i wet behind the ears??...most probably. Have i alot to learn???..absolutely....Do i hate women because they serve little or no purpose to me as a gay guy???....NO...I love women for what they contribute to society..a woman brought me into the world for Gods sake.

 

yeah, i know all about honesty. hitler was honest, too.












AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! is it too early in the night for a hitler reference? i hear he was nice to his dogs.

 

you know what? you just like acting like a jerk and now you're just being stubborn. there are some GLORIOUSLY BEAUTIFUL lesbians, but if you just want to act like a ignorant twit about it, whatever. you just alienated a load of potential friends. maybe they'll forgive you once you grow up and stop finding your joy in denigrating other people. me? i don't bother with shallow.

 

Stubborn??..over what?...ive been honest..yes i accept tact is required and perhaps i overstepped the boundary by calling the vagina repulsive, however its the word that best describes how i feel about it. What do u want me to do lie and say oh its beautiful?? nah, i prefer honesty. This is only a gay guys perspective..i accept that many straight guys find the vagina to be very appealing...i am a gay guy so i dont share their views. I think some of you need to get out more and find out exactly what people REALLY feel..i was in a gay club on Friday night and i brought up the subject of female genitalia and every one to a man was more or less grossed out by it...this is brutal honesty..if you dont want honesty then dont bother engaging in this contentious issue. As regards lesbians....ivce yet to see an attractive lesbian and just cause im a gay guy that doesnt mean i cant appreciate a pretty female face but the only lesbians i see are butch..Martina Navratilova anyone??..U name one single attractive famous lesbian...i cant think of any and ive yet to see one in the gay clubs i frequent in London. They look rough as hell.

 

Posts in this thread have been deleted for 3 reasons.

Most importantly there is a member posting insulting comments about members of the LGBT community, this will not be tolerated, it is blatantly upsetting people.

Replys to the insulting posts have been deleted

and an outside link to another forum has been deleted
Also to the ladies who where upset by this persons posts (quite rightly in my opinon) I will be continuing with this person off the thread and by PM

 

Hmm...is it really fair to be deleting posts from someone just because they were expressing their feelings?

 

yes.

 

Sorry sam but i cant read your PMS as pop ups are blocked. I didnt realise that posting a link to another forum was not allowed. Regarding my comments...i am utterly baffled as to how they could cause offence. The thread topic asked for honesty and thats exactly what i have given. If that upsets people somehow then thats there problem...i have been honest about how i feel about the female genitalia. Or maybe you want me to lie...is that how it works on here...whatever happened to freedom of speech?? I accept tact should be used however i always believe that honesty is the best policy...ive always stood by that. Im 17 years old...i maybe immature and ignorant of some issues however im expressing honestly how i feel...if my honesty isnt allowed on here they maybe i should piss off to a forum that will allow me to express my opinions honestly.

 

there's a difference between honesty and verbal abuse. as a human being outside of "traditional" acceptance, you should know that.

 

Verbal abuse??..ohh please. You are kidding me?...you have to be. Name one instance of verbal abuse...i can accept i was a bit out of order calling all lesbians ugly....i should have said ive yet to see a lesbian with an attractive face..maybe that was more appropriate. Listen i dont like the constant allegation of women hating that i can see being aimed at me...I have nothing but respect for women..yes men play a much bigger part in my life being a gay guy however i still respect women as equals. I didnt once refer to women as repulsive...their genitalia yes but never once the person. Thats honesty not verbal abuse...sorry but you are being far too pc and you know it. See as a gay guy ive got a thicker skin...i have to to put up with the abuse i get..i expect the same of others on here who are able to express their view freely. Yes i accept i could have used tact more on certain points however the thread called for honesty and thats what ive given. Being a gay forum id expect better...certainly more open than other forums but no..its a closed shop where honest views arent given the time of day. Very sad state of affairs indeed. Remember..be real.

 

why do you WANT to dish out abuse? do you feel a sense of cathartic release? petty vengeance for being forced to develop a thicker skin? we're not here to develop a thicker skin. we're here to for ONCE be accepted and not be forced to deal with being called ugly names and made to feel less than. maybe you SHOULD move along to another board. because i'm not going anywhere. for the most part people on here have been kind and supportive.

 

I have deleted all posts that refere to lesbians being ugly, not only is that off topic it is insulting to one quarter of the LGBT community here.
you would be just as angry if someone made a negative generalision about gay men and if it was a straight person that made the comments Jeffrey did, then people would be more than angry.

In future Andy if you want to discuss a moderating discision PM me, discusing it on a thread just takes it over
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Jeffrey you can't have it both ways, the only comments I have deleted of yours was ones concerning lesbians, you have made serveral posts about womens bodies that have not been removed.
a closed shop would be where they are all removed, if you want to be open with us, its only fair that people should be open and honest back and if thats anger and outrage so be it.
about 5 or 6 people have said they have disagreed with you, well you have been open with us we are being open back.
Guess what if you don't like what you are hearing, don't say tehthings you are doing
"remember be real"

what does this mean, everyone agreeing with you or people not reacting with their feelings when you anger them, OK people have been very angry with you on this thread and they have been very very real.

the other option is if people don't agree with you they just ignore you, this works too,
but the people here haven't done that, they've said 'hey what you say hurts' what you say 'makes us angry' maybe they think your actually worth the effort of showing those feelings too, because when they stop caring and give you up as someone that just has nasty views and probably won't change, you won't hear a lot out of them at all.

so don't ever accuse us of not being real, because with the type of emotions you have generated on this thread, you won't get it much more real.
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ALRIGHT. sam's being all grown up and killing my peeve. what we need now is a good old fashioned, no holds barred, mud rasslin' to settle it. men dressed as women, women dressed as horses. i don't think i've seen that one yet.

 

I think we need to put this to bed and agree to differ.
Jeffrey we know what your feelings are and you know that there are people that find your opinons offensive.
it doesn't look like you are going to change your point of view and it doesn't look like the people who are offended will cease to be.
So instead of going round in circles and this thread getting so insulting that I have to close it, shall we just leave it now?
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yeah. not really anything to be done for it.

 

Thats ok, you can close the thead. I apologise for calling all lesbians ugly...i know thats not the case so i was clearly shit stirring there...however i dont apologise for my views on the opposite sex and in particular female genitalia. I dont think ive said anything wrong...again using the reverse i would take no offence to a lesbian calling a cock repulsive...i would respect their view as opposed to a character assassination thats been aimed at me on here. Women are equal to men...they contribute every bit as much to society if not more than men...just cause they dont play a big part in my life as a gay guy doesnt lessen my respect for them..i dont think im being a single iota disrespectful for calling their genitalia repulsive...see to me it is...and its the same as the gay guys i talk to..its the same as the gay guys on the other forum that was deleted...gay guys IN MY EXPERIENCE find the vagina to be repulsive...now i must stress this is purely from a sexual context...i thought it would be pretty obvious since we are in no way attracted to women so are hardly going to like their genitalia. This thread calls for honesty as its a contentious issue..I acknowledge tact may be used however i myself prefer brute honesty...it saves alot of time. OK I acknowlegde we will have to agree to differ on this.