The NCAA needs to pay players

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by unfocusedanakin, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    NCAA is the league for college athletes for anyone outside America. They are the ones who say the team is "students" playing for fun. So they should not be paid. The trouble is the schools and coaches makes many millions of dollars off these games each year. There are TV deals, sponsorships from Nike and other brands, merchandiser, donations from former students etc. There is such a brand and lifestyle the local community attaches to the sport it's not kids having fun it is very serious business.

    There are two reasons a young person willing to play for free.

    1. They want a pro scout to see them so they look at college as practice to one day earn a good living. Of the thousands of players each year only a few will get a look from a scout. Even less an actual offer from a pro team. Yet college coaches lie and manipulative their players knowing this for their own gain.

    2. They get free tuition at the college which is HUGE for Americans. Although they usualy practice 40-50 hours a week or more so there is not much time to study. And the so called "paper classes" are well known where the situation is since the young man is a good athlete for the schools respected team they don't actuly have to go to class and learn like others do. They literately turn in one or two sentences "essays" and that is their only work for the whole year thus the paper in paper class.

    I have heard stories of these players going to college tutors and asking them to teach them to read so they understand what the media writes about them. This is college where you should have learned to read 15 years ago. As someone who grew up playing sports I could see this as an extreme positivity. The kids who were good did not have to learn they had to worry about the game. And when I hear some of these guys interviewed on TV not to sound rude but they do not speak well almost like no one taught them how to.

    They are paid for a unique skill. Others can not do what they can since we are not all 6'5 with the ability to throw a ball 50 yards. So we must compensate them for this skill. Each college player needs a minnium legally required salary that is above minnium wage significantly. There is tremendous mental and physical risk with a sport like American football. The salary should reflect this.

    Failing this they must have strong limits on the amount of time they can practice each week so it's truly a hobby. If you spend 50 hours a week on something that gets other people paid it's a job.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I disagree. They get college tuitions and everybody already paid for on a scholership, at the end of the day it's just college sport, no other country in the world would even see 500 people at a college game, only in America do they make such a deal of it.

    You want to be paid, you breeze through college and land on a professional sports team. Professional sports teams aren't schools. The term professional means you get paid.
     
  3. No one should get paid or anything. We should all just agree to do work and to not take more than our fair share of anything. To live meekly and in moderation with honesty and integrity.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Good idea

    As long as you foot the bill :)
     
  5. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    not really. there's only a couple college sports that make money, and only a handful of schools that actually make money off of them. do you really think the southwest tennessee community college women's soccer team is making huge profits? their coach just won coach of the year, but i bet he's not driving home in a porsche.

    when i was in grad school 6-7 years ago (in a program that covered a lot of college sport information), there were only (i think) 4 colleges in the country that actually profited overall on their athletic programs. something like 99% of all NCAA revenue at that time came from that stupid fucking march madness tournament, so if you have a problem with it please boycott that annoying thing.

    3) they enjoy playing their sport. you don't seem to realize that a vast majority of college athletes don't get any scholarship money. division 3 isn't even allowed to give athletic scholarships. and even d1 teams don't scholarship every single player. there's limits to the number of scholarships that can be given per sport at any level.

    also, i don't know where you're getting the 40-50 hour "usual" practice schedule. maybe a couple weeks during preseason prep, but that's not the standard.
     
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  6. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    For me it’s cut and dry, college athletes are amateurs and I think it should remain that way.

    I know there have been a number of high profile cases recently which question that notion such as the University of Miami Men’s Basketball team where it was alleged 60-80 student-athletes were paid under the table, stripper parties within the Louisville Cardinals athletic dormitories, or the case of the corrupt overly ambitious Adidas executive who paid money to the parents of high profile basketball recruits to attended Adidas only, sponsored schools.

    I get it but these few scandals are few and far between the vast majority of athletes enjoy the full experience of college life, go on to graduate and become our nation’s leaders
     
  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's true not every school is on the same level as say Michigan is for football. That is why salary should be tied into profits for the school. The Fiesta Bowl makes more than a D3 women's soccer game for the school so the employee who made the money is worth more just like a CEO makes more for his company than a McDonad's employee. What you bring to the table matters. Also the skill to play for a big D1 school vs a small D3 means you have more skills. Same as any other job cream of the crop rises to the top. So why should this skill not be worth something? The schools knows they have a free NFL game on their hands. That is the appeal to say you saw Tom Brady before he was Tom Brady. They profit more than a D3 school where the QB is an account in 10 years.

    Some do play for the love but they are not the ones who are told they will be pro. I guess I am speaking more about football and basketball specificity. Most schools who have men's teams in these sports do make a profit from them.

    The 40-50 hour practice week is well known for the bigger football schools. Generly 4-5 hours before the paper classes and 3-4 after 6 days a week year round. So from sunrise to past sunset they practice. In theory after dark is when studying is done.
     

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