The Moon Landings Were A Hoax!!:

I can certainly do the first two...

4,547 kg - mass of ascent craft
7.347 7 × 10^22 kg - mass of moon
1,737.10 km - mean radius
gravitational constant = 6.67300 × 10^-11 m3 kg-1 s-2

with those stats

the required energy is 1.28*10^10 J

or 12.8 Giga Joules

as a reference

"the enthalpy of one kilogram of hydrogen, which is 141 megajoules"

so, to completely escape the moons gravity (which technically means being able to travel infinitly far away from it) you would need to burn

approximately less than 1000kg or a metric tonne of hydrogen (thats not including supplying the required oxygen).

Fortunately there are fuels with a much higher denisty of available energy than hydrogen/oxygen (mostly due to hydrogen being difficult to liquiefy)

the acceleration back to earth, that would depend on where you wanted to reach when and at what angle. For that you need weather forcasts, alignment of the planets etc.

But, if you wanted to reach earth in say 10 hours? or 36000 seconds

384,405 km between earth and moons pole
6,378 km from earths centre to the edge of atmosphere

need to travel 376,290km

s=1/2at^2
a=2*376290000[metres] / (36000^2)
a=0.58 ms^-2
v^2=u^2 + 2as

v=at=2.0905x10^5 m/s (speed of light is 3x10^8 m/s)

Ek=0.5*3000*2.0905x10^10
Ek=655 GigaJoules

So that time is far too short.

try T=2 days
a= 0.02520375192901234567901234567901 ms^-2

so
v=4355 m/s
Ek=28 GigaJoules




escape velocity of earth?

11.2 km/s
part 1 and 2 of lunar module
14,696 kg

Ek = 0.5*14,696*(11200)^2
energy to escape earths gravity = 921 Giga Joules


Approximate energy requirement of a round trip, including lunar touch down aproximated as being similar to lunar take off (accounting for extra mass)
moon entry energy = 44.8 GigaJoules
921+28*2+12.8+44.8 - edit (made an error here, the travel from earth to moon would require more energy than on the way back due to the extra mass)
=1035 GigaJoules

as a side note, premium gasoline energy content is
50.4 MJ/kg

so 1035 GJ in gasoline is approximately
20,528 kg

excluding the leaving of earths surface(ie including only the weight of the lunar craft from earth orbit to moon surface and back)

E=114 GigaJoules
or
2200kg of gasoline

 

it actually might be to our advantage to colonise ouiter space someday. especially if overpopulation on earth is as much of an issue as they say it is. while the moon landing could have very easily been faked, i don't know that it was faked. then again i don't know that it really happened either. seeing as how i wans't there, let alone even alive.

 

last time i checked the sun is a star and it's up in outer space. or did my high school science teacher just fib to me?

 

were you involved with either the holocaust or the apollo moon landings? why would the government waste our money on frivolous things? i dunno, but they've been at it for many years now. were you there to witness either of those two events? aisde from looking at photos and watching stuff on tv about it. none of us here were, then again emaciated bodies don't prove anyone was gassed to death either. but that's another story

 

I'd just like to make a point.

1. Was russia luna missions faked?
2. Are satallites faked?
3. If 1 and 2 are false, then why wouldn't russia have ALL the evidence to suggest if a lunar module went to the moon, and if it didn't why is there no evidence of conspiracy that came out of russia????????

 

lets not forget how many people are on earth. and what you can personally achieve vs what you can achieve with a friends help etc etc etc

given enough planning, LOTS is possible

 

I think the argument that it is possible is very sound, what the question is...is there a reason it didn't happen that has been hidden?

the right side of me says no
the left says yes

subjectively there is no reason, the act is plausable
but objectively, it doesn't fit with reality

what in reality would prevent us from leaving this planet?

 

Then listen to the words of a former russian agent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5YyolUHAw


Hotwater

 

i.e. the moon landings were ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs


Hotwater

 

If calculation is correct then it makes it possible for the Lunar mission to have indeed taken place, in which case there remains no reason to question it any further.

 

there's probably some formula in math and physics which could verify someone punching a hole in their wall too. wether or not they'd ever do such a thing. to say it was faked is one thing, to say it never could have been faked is really naive.

 

What is the point of arguing that something may have been faked, without any reason or fact to support such argument?

One may as well argue all day long about anything possibly being fake.

What about this argument here: although I have no reason , no fact, no hint to support following assumption, yet I am going to argue whether my parents could have faked it when they raised and treated me as their natural born child -> because it is not entirely impossible that they may have done so frivolously, and I was just an adoptive child , and the whole thing about natural parentage and me being their child was a hoax.
They may ,for whatever unknown reason, have hid it from all and everyone around, for decades , and here I am to say I do not entirely exclude such a possiblity

 

there seems to have been evidence soon after the events took place that it may have been staged.i had always taken for granted that there was a lunar landing and i guess i still do.but the small amount of research i've done after reading this discussion gives me enough doubt that i think it warrents discussion if anyone cares to......it reminds me some of the controversy surrounding a runestone discovered in minnesota 110 years ago.the inscriptions suggest a viking presence in minnesota in the 1300's.(hence the football's team name minnesota vikings.)the validity of it never has been completely proved or disproved completely.the discussion and controversy has become almost as interesting as the events themselves.

 

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=AB0YMS9U

mythbusters moon landing episode

 

the evidence the russian talked about in that video was the same stuff thats been refuted pretty effectively.

what i was arguing was that russia would have been technically able to watch the moon lander the entire time...both tracked with radar or what ever and photographically

 

And so far unrefuted evidence is?

 

none that i know of.maybe evidence was the wrong word.it's just interesting to me is all.

 

Ok, have a good one

 

We no more landed on the moon than there is a man in the moon

So we’re to believe they traveled 238,000 miles in what was essentially a tin can, passed through the van allen belt without dying of radiation poisoning, achieved a standard orbit around the moon, launched a shuttlecraft to the lunar surface, took an afternoon stroll on a dead lifeless world, and then blasted off only to reacquire the orbiter and head back to earth – sure


Hotwater

 

Hot water, yes that is believable.

The logistics are pretty straight forward...you could make a computer game that allowed children to accomplish the physics of getting orbits right

the radiation belt?

what is the density of alpha/beta radiation in the two belts? i know one of them is mostly excited electrons...which can be blocked by charged metal aka a gaussian grid...which oddly a tin can is perfect for.

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~scdirof...tionandShielding/PenetrationandShielding.html

So...its the Gamma rays you have to worry about...now these don't have that much to do with the van allen belt as far as im aware