The minimum wage

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rjhangover, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    I think you need to go and look up and find out about neo-liberalism.

    Neoliberalism - is a label for Economic liberalism, advocates of which support economic liberalization, free trade and open markets, privatization, deregulation, and decreasing the size of the public sector while increasing the role of the private sector in modern society. (wiki)

    It is a right wing political and economic dogma that underpins much of today’s right wing political and economic ideas. Including those of Republicans and Democrats.

    Try reading -
    A Brief History of Neoliberalism
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brief-History-Neoliberalism-David-Harvey/dp/0199283273"]A Brief History of Neoliberalism: Amazon.co.uk: David Harvey: Books


    "Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Augusto Pinochet - these are the famous faces of neoliberalism, the economic (and, to some extent, philosophical) doctrine that advocates unregulated capitalism, free trade, small government (and hence low taxation) and the marketization of virtually every aspect of life." - reviewer
     
  2. yooper2013

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    It wont be a problem if or goverment would stop allowing or good jobs to leave the US. there scared to step on other country tows to protect Americans.
     
  3. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    That "label" is still just a deception by the republicans who are responsible for deregulation, destruction of welfare for the poor, and welfare for the rich(tax cuts), and the GATT agreement(global agreement on taxes and tariffs) which allows corporations to send their factories to China and get cheap labor. It has nothing to do with liberalism, and everything to do with republican greed.
     
  4. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    As I recall the good revenue sharing socialists of the hillbilly clinton klan signing nafta into it's ugly existence , I must advise the "working" American to grab his ankles , whenever the ugly word "global" is introduced to the conversation.
     
  5. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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  6. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    fuck the job market
    i just got out in time

    Ditto. Thanks to barry , I retired early. The young ones are fucked. LOL. They wanted change. They got it. LOL.
     
  7. hillbillyhippy

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  8. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    good for you.

    i just dont get one thing, wtf has "barry" got to do with it? :confused:
     
  9. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    barry has made the lives of workers tougher than ever before. Reducing many workers to part time for starters. These are folks probably , the most in need of 40 hrs . His "green" initiatives have caused unemployment where good jobs are needed the most.
     
  10. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    So what you're saying is Obama runs the job market. He owns all the corporations that do the hiring. Obama was the one that sent all the good paying jobs to China. And he was doing all this before he became POTUS, because all the jobs were lost when Shrub was in the WH.

    Just another sleazeball bigot blaming Obama for what the cons have done.
     
  11. hillbillyhippy

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    Not directly, but he did start many policies that caused businesses to have to hire their employees part time, due to the costs of it takes to implement his policies.
     
  12. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    We lost a lot of full time public sector jobs though because local governments decided to cut spending. (teachers, fire fighters, police, prison guards)

    This is more of a state legislature problem though, and I'm only saying this because it seems to be in conflicting patriotic spirit if both parties are trying to lower the unemployment rate and create jobs.

    I always wonder where the unemployment rate would be if we had the creation of the public sector jobs we've had these past 2 years + very little or no cuts to public sector jobs.
     
  13. hillbillyhippy

    hillbillyhippy Member

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    That is an interesting notion
     
  14. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    We need to send more public sector jobs abroad, and reduce the burden on the private sector tax payers. How about a "rent a government" where we send politicians and regulatory agencies abroad to provide greater equality and freedom to third world countries, for a nominal cost of course, and in lieu of any further foreign aid.
     
  15. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Or even better you could organize a "government exchange program".

    With, say, Afghanistan. :D
     
  16. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    I was thinking more on the line of reducing our excess bureaucracy and sharing it with the less developed countries who are lacking the government created rules and regulations that make a nation free and prosperous.

    More relative to the topic:
    Having lived and worked in nearly a dozen States and half a dozen countries, I've found a living wage can vary quite enormously. Perhaps it would be more reasonable and rational were the Federal government to simply make a law that each State should be responsible for determining a minimum wage, which even then could vary within the State.
     
  17. hillbillyhippy

    hillbillyhippy Member

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    that could possibly work.
     
  18. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Yeah, I got that. But I read your post over a few times because something bugged me but I couldn't really figure it out.

    So you want to cut the excess bureaucracy and send it, say, to Nigeria so those guys can beef up the system and make it work better. In exchange for that you cut off the aid program and let them pay for the excess bureaucracy that made your nation free and prosperous but that right now you can't really afford to pay.

    Man, the Nigerians are gonna love this. :D
     
  19. hillbillyhippy

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    what about the type of government they had in rome and greece at one time, where everyone voted on everything.....if we can vote for the president through a text message why can't we vote on our own laws
     
  20. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    That's a direct democracy. This was debated among the founding fathers, and the reason we're a Republic and not a direct democracy was because of the fear of mob mentality.

    And voting by text message, presents technological problems with fraud.

    If any of you are familiar with bots then you'll understand the kind of problems I'm hinting at.
     

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