The Masons

This is true. Actually, if I am not mistaken, I believe members of the Dead played at the Grove this past summer.

As a matter of fact, Bob Weir is a member of Bohemian Grove and has played at Grove events for the past 6-7 years.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2091

The Grateful Dead Play At Bohemian Grove!​

Jerry GarCIA – Indymedia July 24, 2004​

The summer retreat that Herbert Hoover called "the greatest men´s party on Earth" is under way in Monte Rio, and the guest list is as eclectic as ever.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the CEO of Bechtel Corp., former Grateful Dead bandmates and vintner Robert Mondavi are all scheduled to attend the Midsummer Encampment of the Bohemian Club of San Francisco.

So, too, is conservative author William F. Buckley Jr., liberal TV personality Chris Matthews and gay porn star Chad Savage.

Actually, Savage is working the event as a valet, according to the New York Post, which quoted another, unidentified employee despite confidentiality agreements that employees sign when they are hired.

The point is, Bohemians and the cast of hundreds who help put on this summer camp for grown men really are an "unconventional" lot, as the word is technically defined by Webster´s.

The 125th gathering of "Bohos" is no exception, according to an official guest list distributed to club members. More than 2,500 men are scheduled to go to the club´s 2,800-acre redwood grove just east of Monte Rio. This is the busiest weekend of the 17-day event, which means everybody who´s anybody should be there.

Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, a perennial camper, arrived Thursday by private plane at the Charles M. Schulz-Sonoma County Airport. Fifty to 100 private jets have landed at the airport daily in the past two weeks, about average for this time of year, said Walt Smith, regional coordinator for the Federal Aviation Administration.

But as of Friday, the Secret Service hadn´t alerted airport officials to any special arrivals, despite the fact that Powell is on the guest list and scheduled to stay in Mandalay, the same camp as Kissinger and Riley Bechtel, the CEO of the engineering firm whose projects include the reconstruction of Iraq.

Mandalay is one of 119 separate camps that dot the floor and walls of the steep canyon and is so far up the fern-covered bank that it has an incline railway to haul firewood and supplies.

Mandalay is the traditional seat of power in Bohemian Grove. Its guest list this year includes George Schultz, a former secretary of state; David O´Reilly, chairman of ChevronTexaco; H.B. Atwater Jr., chief executive officer of General Mills; and Edgar Kaiser Jr., founder of the Kaiser Foundation.

In all, about 30 prominent businessmen and current and former government officials are scheduled to stay in Mandalay.

Rumsfeld and former President George Bush are members of the Hill Billies camp, although it´s unclear whether either is actually going.

Former President Gerald Ford, however, apparently won´t be in attendance, as his name does not appear on the guest list. Former President Ronald Reagan also appears on the list despite his June 5 death.

The associations of powerful men made possible by the Bohemian Club encampment have raised the ire of protesters, who charge that captains of industry and government officials discuss business in secret despite the grove´s official motto: "Weaving spiders come not here."

Of particular interest are the "Lakeside Talks," which this year include:

An untitled talk by David Gergen, commentator and former adviser to both Republican and Democratic presidents.

"The Landscape of American Politics," by David Brooks, a New York Times columnist.

"College Athletics: Serious Business or Toy Department?" by Ted Leland, Stanford University´s athletic director.

"Flight," by Chuck Yeager.

"The Long War of the 20th Century," by James Woolsey, a former CIA director.

"Bohemia," by author Herman Wouk.

"Exploring Mars and Searching for Life in the Universe," by Charles Elachi, director of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.

"The Coming Virtual Soldier," by Roger McCarthy, principal and engineer of Exponent Inc.

Local notables scheduled to attend include Victor Trione, son of financier and philanthropist Henry Trione; winemakers Jim Bundschu, Daniel Duckhorn and Wente brothers Eric and Phil; and car dealer Henry Hansel.

Occidental resident Mickey Hart will join fellow Grateful Dead member Bob Weir. The musicians, along with rocker Steve Miller, are part of an effort to bring a younger vibe to the grove, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Not everyone who attends is rich and famous, however.

Peter Phillips, a professor at Sonoma State University who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the Grove, estimated one in five members actually fits that criterion, and the rest are either the ordinary rich or just plain ordinary.

"There´s associate members, maybe a high school teacher from Palo Alto, who plays tuba in the band," he said.
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That is just wierd. I didn't give much creedence to Dan Brown's book, but his explainaition of the use of roses within the Priory of Sion, etc. made me wonder abit about the conection, if true. We certainly know that the boys used to be called the Warlocks, the name Grateful Dead has some sort of psuedo-Christian alchemical meaning, Alembic guitars/bass (see phil below) also derive their name from the word "alchemy", and Jerry was said to be obssesed with the hidden construction techniques of medieval churches. Like many in the sixties, the dead were facinated with a more inclusive mysticism than pure orthodox Christianity. I wouldn't be surprized if they were somehow involved with the magical aspects of masonry. However, I certainly can't understand why they would go to a gathering of men like that.

Oh one more thing. Mickey Hart lives in that area, very close to the Bohemian Grove. I almost wonder if he or someone they know from Marin, etc. introduced them somehow, and they play as a joke. that's the only thing that i could imagine. I just can't see the boys being devious.

 

I mean, Herbert Hoover? Henry Kissenger? These are people the dead railed against, made fun of incessantly. I'll bet they see it as irony.

 

There is a great book on the origins of the Knights Templar in Gramham Hancock's "The Sign and the Seal". Anyone read it? Although he is journalist, not an academic, he systematically and rationally traced their history to the medieval fascination with relics, specifically with the ark, in their mind the most powerful relic of the ancient world. Solomon's Temple WAS BUILT TO HOUSE THE ARK!

After arriving in the Holy Land during the First Crusade, the Knights set about escavating the temple mount for a period of roughly seven years, whereupon they up and left Jerusalem and made haste toward Ethiopia then ruled by the Ethiopian Negus, Lalibela. When western Christians arrived in Jerusalem, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church with its claim of possessing the ark, was in control of many of the most important Christian Churches and shrines, including the Church of the Holy Seplecture. I believe the Knights must have gleened much information from these Ethiopian monks/priests in charge.

Anyways, after they arrived in Ethiopia, these master architects helped Lalibela construct 13 churches loaded with masonic symbolism and hewn from solid rock (see http://pierre.doreau.free.fr/lalibela/images/m_Q/lalibela_geo2.jpg). Winning the king's favor and trust, they learned of the ark's whereabouts, and tried to steal it, unsucessfully, from Ethiopia.

Lalibela sent a letter (this letter is out there somewhere on the web) to the pope, threatening to bring the ark to Europe and wreck havoc if the Knights weren't punished. It was sometime shortly after this point that Templars were accused of heresy, blasphemous rites, allegence to baphomet, etc.

This is a much longer story than i have the patience to write I will get into more detail in a little bit.

 

It's funny, but everyone seems to have an opinion on The Masons.
My grandfather, whose dead, was a Mason, and I started looking through his Masonic Bible and other Masonic papers a few years ago after hearing some of the conspiracy theories that are swilring around out there (The Internet).
Surprisingly, I didn't uncover anything cryptic or menacing while looking through my grandfather's yellowed paperwork, and no men dressed in Masonic garb jumped out of the shadows to grab me.
What I learned was The Masons are a very private Christian-based organization that appears to enjoy doing charitable deeds.
Now I may be wrong because everything in the Masonic Bible was written in code, but, from my perspective it appears The Masons are mostly harmless.
Yes, people may argue that my view is clouded because my grandfather was a Mason, and, to an extent, they'd be right. I respected my grandfather. He was a hard-working farmer who moved to the city and took a job at a factory, a simple man who didn't get overly-involved in religion or politics: He just wanted to be able to savor a cold beer after a hard days work.
While I may not be the most objective person, I feel pretty confident The Masons aren't conspiring to rule the world or send Christians to Hell. Would I ever join them? No. I'm too individualistic. I'm the type of guy who made fun of fraternities all through college (I did drink their free beer). Still, I'm sure people who feel the overwhelming need to be a part of something can join The Masons and have a ball.

 

Of course they come off as harmless, and for the most part, as we know them today, they are. All organizations appear harmless at a superficial level. I never once said that your average Mason is part of the conspiracy to take over the world. The large majority of them are average, everyday, well-meaning people that know only what they've been told about the organization. Masonry is simply one of the many secret socieites of the Illuminati that has been around for thousands of years, that the global-elite has used to further their agenda. It's no different from Skull & Bones, the Knights of Malta, or any other secret society which utilizes rites in which people at the bottom of the proverbial pyramid are unaware of what goes on at the top.

 

I believe Free Masonary is very peculiar...them and the illuminati have something going on...one world government maybe...

 

Things that cannot be explained by anything other than a global conspiracy or illuminati.

Things that are not based on hearsay, rumors, or urban legends.

Things that are not based on unverifiable testimonials from isolated individuals.

In other words, suppose that secretly ruling the world was a crime, and you had the leader of the freemasons on trial. Convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that he's guilty.

Tabloids don't have to be things you buy at the supermarket checkout lines. I've read many of the internet websites about the freemasons, and can only assume the books are similar. They definitely qualify as tabloids.

 

Oh jesus...

There are say 4-5 different ways to examine a book and look at its quality and the author's ability to write.

-"beauty of words" going from basic things like grammar, spelling, right through to ability to convey imagery and symbolism well. Dan Brown seems to have completely skipped this, he has no talen with regards to beautifying words/phrases/scenes, nothing. Symbolism for him is digging up an ancient symbol and splashing it across the page with the characters constantly repeating its meaning.

-Flowing style. This is basically "can the reader follow?"- does it jump around from scene to scene etc...the books do not jump in a large way, the audience can follow but in my view, Dan Brown has no ability to write beautifully or even well. When he has paragraphs like "He turned away as sophie realised he looked like her father in that light. Sophies father had told her something very important in her childhood, and she remembered it now *tangent on sophies memory of childhood event*. Sophie realised how important this was *random totally erroneous link to current events with no possible way that she could have magically remembered that and put it together*. Sophie realised how attractive he looked in the light" you've got to wonder.

-Plot. People say Dan Brown writes an amazing plot. I in part agree with this, he comes up with brilliant ideas and despite my hatred for his writing style and the extremities of one's willing suspension of disbelief; Brown does have brilliant ideas. These ideas and theories are all based on long standing conspiracy theories which can hold out in a book as noone looks further- the BBC investigated his theory he posits in "The DaVinci Code"- at the start a voice over comes on saying "this is what we found and were amazed by until we discovered it was a total bunch of crap". The moment you critically look at any of the 'information' given, (such as Da Vinci's paintings and what they mean,) the theory completely falls to pieces and it's revealed for what it is.

-Characters. I was never good at character analysis but from memory they're a bit one dimensional, take that with a grain of salt because like I said I don't do character analysis.

I can't be bothered going on. Dan Brown basically writes so he can advertise how much knowledge he has, that's all the books are, knowledge with characters attached. He has no talent in terms of ability to write, read his book then read anyone else- the Brontes', sir arthur conan doyle... nearly any other author and you will see his serious shortcomings. Further, never believe his theories or anything he says in his books until you have thoroughly thoroughly looked it up through legitimate sources, because its simply conspiracy theories. I remember but one thing in the entire DaVinci Code which was legit, in regards to the sacred feminine, the rest was garbage.

 

As sure as some people here seem to be that all this si just conspiracy theories, what great knowledges they must have! I'm sure you all must know what's really going on?

 

Once again, show me the evidence. Otherwise I'm perfectly justified in dismissing these ridiculous claims as conspiracy theories.

 

I have to agree about Dan Brown. While the book was a quick read, it was so unbelievable for me that I wasn't able to bite into the story. The disclaimer at the beginning was completely misleading.
The good thing about "B" books, is that they can often make "A" movies.

 

I just reacted as strongly as I did out of shock, since I felt pretty sure that you do have a large base of knowledge that few folks I have met share with me.
I only get that snarly if I am feeling weak, and read something that is a hot button and Pike, who alledgedly still has a statue in DC, is smokin hot, he is a well educated, often quoted, admired historical figure who has a lot of very solid intellectual credibility, even to my eyes, until I take into account that he was a big part of the KKK.

 

I read Cosmos, it was bland.
I cannot stand Carl Sagan, he is a great cure for insomnia.
I prefer Einstein, far more intelligent, and far more spiritual, spirituality being the more important of the two qualities, to me.
Extraordinary claims only require extraordinary evidence if the claimer cares whether or not others think they are crazy, lying, or telling the truth.
I don't care if he believes me, so I don't need to show him any evidence.