The Left's Double Standard On Free Speech

It is truly an outrage that 3 fanatics killed 12 people in Paris because they didn't like cartoons depicting The Prophet in an unfavorable light. I'm sure you share my anger. I just wonder though, how Marxists, anarcho-communists, etc. can be outraged over this Paris incident, yet not outraged over similar efforts to squash free speech by the likes of Che Guevarra, Vladimir Lenin, Mao, etc. Is Left-Wing fascism not equally repulsive as Right-Wing fascism?

The Right has always noticed this double standard, and considers Leftists hypocrites.

Wake up folks.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/charlie-hebdo-shooting-12-killed-muhammad-cartoons-magazine-paris-n281266

 

What a childish, simplistic view.

Being left-wing doesn't mean you automatically, mindlessly agree with every so-called leftist leader that has ever existed.
The fact that I even have to explain this is a sign that this conversation is probably going to be very very frustrating.

 

wrong post have moved

 

Who said they weren't? I think a lot of respect lies in the original ideas instead of what was ACTUALLY done - two very different things. Those men became extremists in their own right (or, if you insist on me saying it as you would see it, their own left) and anyone with half a head can tell you extremism is only gonna go downhill.... kinda like this thread has the potential to do

 

Some on the left have overlooked stuff but then so have those on the right.

But hey - thing is here that the culprits of the this crime were religiously motivated so shouldn’t it be ‘the religious believers double standards on free speech’

I mean isn’t this the inevitable consequence of becoming religious, so shouldn’t we all unite and attack those insidious, dangerous god bothering worshipers? Doesn't matter if they are mild mannered vicars, catholic priests, people working for religious charities and hey as for those bloody Buddhists, well they need the smile wiped of their faces.

Oh and i nearly forgot the muslims lets not forget the muslims...

 

This forum has reached an all-time new low. :-(

 

Karen


Which bit?

 

These are the concerns we have about mass murder and free speech? Fuck.

 

Well this is how the concerns come out. It is not necessarily the most important concerns or central focus point

I was kind of suprised at first I didn't find anything on here about this happening (maybe I'm missing some thread), as other terrorist attacks almost always got attention on the same day.

Sarcasm (I reckon). Just not sure to who or what you are replying with this

 

I agree with Karen. HipForums seems to be a downward spiral, dominated by morons and mean-spirited people who get their misinformation from Alex Jones and Fox News. I am considering getting out of here and just let the druggies and mental defectives argue with each other. It's a shame, because there are a number of good people here.

 

On the right we had Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet and many more who weren't exactly keen on free speech.

To assume that your average right winger today shares their views is every bit as reasonable as thinking all lefties have the same agenda as Lenin or Mao.

Go back to sleep now.

 

With one sensible post you can counter a whole thread of moron posts (well for the people who come to this forum and read it, not necessarily to enlighten said morons..). That's why it keeps worthwile (and fun imo) to keep on criticizing that stuff.

 

When I used to live in France I used to read the Charlie and like many of my friends it got stacked up next to the shitter to browse in those contemplative moments.

It was left wing and anti-religious and although sometimes unfunny in a French way (the Gallic humour like some wines doesn’t always travel well) and often so disgusting it made me even blush it often hit its mark right on the head.

To me the best way to honour those that died is to make fun at the stupid people that did it and the idiots using it to push ideological idiocy.

I remember after the bombs in London, the public transport closed down so everyone went to the pub – as someone said at the time what better way could Londoners stick two fingers up at the terrorists than not to go running scared but to go out and have a piss up.

 

I agree. It was not always funny but they often made a point with it anyway. Even if they didn't made a point they should not have been killed for it of course and yes, ridiculing the people who committed and are supporting this crime is a good way to honour those who died indeed. I just may wish nobody gets as crazy over this as those terrorists themselves and of course that the culprits will get trialed and serve as an example for others. As a society it seems important to not act in any way like the terrorists may wish. So keep the peace (not polarize anything), our wits and our humour and shit upon such attackers of free speech.

 

I started to make a thread about it myself, then I thought some idiot would just turn it into a ridiculous rant about some kind of CIA conspiracy. This OP was beyond the worst-case scenario I had in my head. An occasion to attack the left? Jesus Fucking Christ!

You know you're living in dark times when comedy becomes a dangerous profession.

I think a lot of bad people hate and fear political satirists because they know it's a very effective way to communicate a strong political message to the masses, including a lot of people who wouldn't otherwise seek out political material. Also, chronically angry people hate anyone who has any joy in their lives.

So, go to your nearest pub, raise a mug to freedom, and publicly tell the haters to go fuck themselves! :cheers2:

 

This subject matter does deserves a better thread. So if you still want to make one you should. Maybe it turns in a stupid conspiracy rant but at least it started better (surely). I think more people would find it and like to add their 2 cents in it too, rather than here.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. Not many people had anything bad to say about North Korea, when they made their own attack on free speech.

Maybe hippies care too much about individual free speech and not enough about corporate free speech, which is legally the same thing. Either we all have free (political) speech, or we don't.

 

I'm not sure about that last sentence. Anyway, how many people were killed when North Korea made their attack on free speech? I think that is such a different kind of attack.