The Kamala Devi Harris Score Card

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  1. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    Blah blah blah about Trump, the thread is about Kamala...

    How vicious can she get?

    How low will she go?

    I think she's got more spine than most think.
     
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  2. Bazz888

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    Apologies. Allowed myself to be side-tracked.

    I think she's much more than just a match for T. Looking forward to the debates, to get a sense if how it'll pan out. :)
     
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  3. princess peedge

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    This this so much this.

    The democrats can't afford to take the moral high road anymore. If your opponent is fighting dirty, you'll have to too. Kamala has the energy for this fight. She needs to drop the gloves and go straight for the jugular
     
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  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Exactly.
    Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
     
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  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Can't wait for former prosecutor, President Kamala, to ensure that all Trump's trials get put back on the docket and maybe add a few more indictments while she's at it. You can be sure Trump will try to cheat Kamala out of her victory. I bet she's gonna make sure all trump's henchmen get their due. Maybe she can replace that asshat judge Aileen Cannon too.

    I still prefer a Newsom/Buttigieg ticket. But I can see how having a woman running for President right now could upset the race. Plus she's black and Indian so that should help too with those groups. Kamala does have some baggage from her days as Prosecutor and Senator.

    She's certainly not the most liberal choice for President.
     
  6. TheGreatShoeScam

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    We don't need to send militarized police after parents who don't get their kids off to the indoctrination centers on time.

    Its a bad idea that can get people killed.

    Hey Kamala maybe the damn government you like so much should build schools kids WANT to go to and parents WANT them to attend instead of sending your gunmen to parents houses.
     
  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So I don't know why you posted that video. Cops make mistakes? Bad cops? What?

    Showing an isolated incident and then generalizing to that equating to sending militarized police after parents who don't get their kids off to the indoctrination centers on time doesn't make any sense at all.

    Let's start with the "militarized police".
    The police in this country weren't militarized until the 1997 North Hollywood shootout.
    At that time two men wearing body armor robbed the Bank of America on Laurel Canyon Boulevard. They were armed with two Norinco Type 56 rifles and a Bushmaster XM-15 Dissipator with a 100-round drum magazine all modified to be select-fire, and a Heckler & Koch HK91 and a Beretta 92FS pistol.
    The responding police were armed with 9mm pistols, .38 revolvers, and shotguns.

    The battle lasted 44 minutes with over 2000 shots fired as the police were outgunned and found their weapons useless against the body armor. At one point the police broke into a gun shop to secure AR 15 rifles.
    Two died and twelve police officers and eight civilians were wounded.

    That is why the police are now militarized.
    Due to the gun culture in the U.S. they need to be ready to receive high velocity machine gun fire.
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    Now, schools.
    You are correct that schools are involved in indoctrination: "the condition of being indoctrinated; instruction in the rudiments and principles of any science or system of belief; information". That is part of their mission, to indoctrinate, teach, or instruct students the history of the country and world, social norms, ethics, and morals. And things like the English language. That is one thing that holds our society together, that is one way we attain a national identity.
    Same as religious instruction, or indoctrination.
    The only real question is what are they being indoctrinated, or taught. That is a question you need to take up with your local school board.
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    On to truancy.
    In my state children are required to attend a public school from age six to eighteen, unless enrolled in some sort of approved home schooling or seven other approved exceptions.
    They are required to receive 180 days comprising 900 hours of instruction. That's about one half year.

    Each school must have a written attendance policy that is presented to all parents and that defines excused absences and truancy.
    Now if the student is found to be chronically unlawfully absent the school has "...at least one person holding the title of attendance officer or home and school visitor whose duties shall be to enforce compulsory attendance requirements." Not a militarized police officer.
    A Home School and Visitor Certification does hold the power to arrest a student but before this would happen the parents are notified in writing of every unexcused absence, in the parents native language, and it must include a notification of any possible repercussions, and offer a School Attendance Improvement Conference. And so on, the procedure is very defined.

    If the unexcused absences continue a citation is filed with the magisterial district judge.
    The parents and child are notified in writing of a hearing date. At the hearing the school must prove "beyond a reasonable doubt that the child was subject to compulsory attendance law." The parents, or those in the parental role, and the child may present evidence of why they could not meet the attendance policy.

    If convicted of truancy a fine or community service may be imposed, or a school attendance class may be required.
    First offense is no more than $300, second $500, and third $750. Failure to comply may lead to up to three days in jail.

    And it goes on.
    But nowhere is it lawful for a SWAT team to break into a home and kidnap a child.
    I have known many truant officers and non carried a gun or ever participated in any violence of any kind.
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    Schools.
    Yes we need better schools. So let's fund them better.
    How about we quit paying athletes millions of dollars a year and invest in our schools instead?

    Kamala wants to increase Title I funding (look up Title I), increase funding to Head Start, desegregate schools, enforce Title IX, raise teacher pay to make it comparable with other professions, invest in teacher prep programs, and provide free two year post secondary education.
    Trump wants to cut federal funding for schools that teach “inappropriate” lessons on race, gender, and politics (which of course means the Republican politicians and religious right, not professional educators, would decide what inappropriate means, think indoctrination), roll back protections for gay and transgender students, eliminate the Department of Education, eliminate Title I, limit the enforcement of Title IX, and siphon off money from the public schools and send it directly to parents to allow then to send their children to private indoctrination centers that only the rich can afford anyway. (How is a poor intercity child going to get to that private school in the suburbs?)
    He also wants to eliminate tenure, (tenure means you have to have a reason to fire a teacher, in the old days you could fire anyone so that you could hire your brother in law, or because they were Catholic or Jewish..or black) etc., etc., etc.

    In other words take over public schools and convert them to private indoctrination centers.

    Sorry for the long reply, but this needed to be cleared up.​
     
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  8. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Democrat party doesn't bother with us pesky voters anymore wile simultaneously claiming they are "saving democracy", what a joke.


    I will reply above post later.
     
  9. Piobaire

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    $231 million in 24 hours. If she keeps fundraising at this rate, Clarence Thomas will want to go on vacation with her.
     
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  10. TheGreatShoeScam

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    So if you don't sent your child that you and your partner created to some shit-hole school 40 hours a week then government agents with deadly weapons come steal your money and throw you in a cage for 3 days.

    Pre K to 12th grade we own your children 40 hours a week, don't like it we will use violence and kidnapping so you play along - Kamala Harris

    If I don't drug my child for ADHD with addictive amphetamines they will go as far as calling it child abuse and have violent solutions for that too, look it up. What if My School Wants to Psychologically Screen and/or Drug My Child? – Citizens Commission on Human Rights – Texas

    I am a non violent person myself, I find all that disgusting barbarism. I would never use violence but to defend myself.
     
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  11. princess peedge

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    Serious question to the poster above, are you just unaware that private school and homeschooling options exist?
     
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  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I take it you see no need to educate children.
    Compulsory schooling goes back to Plato:
    In the U.S. Massachusetts required compulsory schooling in 1852.
    Without mandatory schooling we end up with a society that has citizens that are only educated if the parents see a need for education and if they can afford an education. If some yahoo sees no need to stop their child from playing X Box all day, so be it. (And they may have to pay for a baby sitter for school age children or leave them on their own while both parents work).
    Today public schools offer a free education, special ed, free health screening, and in many cases free breakfast and lunch.

    I already described the legal penalties for truancy. Maybe reread it.
    Is this some kind of quote? I can't find it. Source please.
    The CCHR is a front group for the Church of Scientology.
    So much for that.
     
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  13. soulcompromise

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    When I think about how much I want the world to awaken to a future less dismissive of our upbringings and values, I tend to reach for accountability. Because I know of Kamala's prior career as a prosecutor, I know my future is in the hands of someone who cares. That is what matters to me.

    I think about politicians. I wonder what makes them tick and if it's more about re-election. But I trust her. That is my only valid endorsement. I trust Kamala with the future of the country, and that's a fact.
     
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  14. ~Zen~

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    Please stop spreading MISINFORMATION and telling us lies.

    Your quotes are imaginary. Your facts are somewhat skewed...or completely.

    People have WOKEN up to the lies and backward thinking processes of Republicans and die-hard right-wing Christians.

    It is time to step forward into the future, embrace it and create a better place for all...now just a 'chosen' few.
     
  15. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Start with I am not Republican or die-hard right-wing Christian, of all the labels libertarian probably fits me best. I can't stand Trumps and the rest of them their never ending praise of and desire to expand the police state. I don't like them at all. Can't just debunk me everything I say by calling me a Trump head, I'm not one.

    But what I don't get is the lefts embrace of psychiatry and by default the big pharma criminals. Why do they want and let these criminals making our schools into p$ychiatry clinics ?

    Over the course of 20 years, Johnson & Johnson created a powerful drug, promoted it illegally to children and the elderly, covered up the side effects and made billions of dollars. This is the inside story. America’s Most Admired Lawbreaker

    They tried to send my buddies grandchild down this road, 11 years old and kind of rebellious the first go to the school wanted to drug him. They start with Ritalin and Amphetamines like adderal then when the usual 'side' effects pile up they label it some bullshit like bipolar and then add more and more drugs. They never say maybe we should stop drugging the child as they get worse and worse they say they just need to "find the right meds" to undo all the damage they caused in the first place. Once they get someone sick and drugged they never stop.



    The percentage of children and adolescents aged 5–17 years who were drugged by psychiatry and the schools is going up again, 2019 (8.4%) to 2022 (9.3%).

    I was in recovery and AA for a long time, not only did I live the nightmare of those drugs I have seen first hand the destruction it brings on so many people.

    Psychiatry is an abusive human rights atrocity for adults too > Universal Health Services

    Why does the left embrace it ?
     
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    I'm not sure that your experiences with AA or psychotropic drugs are applicable in such a general way. It's probably a matter of percentages as is everything extant. Psychiatry , I'm sure , works on a percentage of those who avail themselves of it. Same with the drugs. However, I don't know why you end up saying "why does the left embrace it." Again--a matter of percentages. Although, I can agree with you on big pharma pushing drugs--some proven totally unsafe--on the populace. Those drugs do not affect me in a deleterious way, but due to percentages again--millions are affected.

    At my age and experience, I now can see more and more issues concerning people / corporations being proven to be crooked! Every day--new stories of criminality. It happens in the most surprising of places ----then again, maybe not so surprising taking into account of the price of LITERALLY EVERYTHING that has become ridiculous. Fuckin 'one bag of groceries costing 50 bucks! I can see why vast numbers of people take to doing drugs when potentially having to pay for vehicles that cost 20--30 ---40 thousand dollars!! House prices are 300,00 to millions ! It's insane!! Capitalism is eating itself alive. Your experiences with drugs / psychiatry are as valid as the next person--just please remember --it's ALWAYS a matter of percentages when discussing / dealing with the human population / condition. I do not think the left embraces psychiatry or drugs any more than the right , the middle or any other segment of the populace.

    I put a like on your post to draw your attention.
     
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    Painting all liberals as drugs lovers is disingenuous. Again with disinformation.
     
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  18. MeAgain

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    No one forces parents to give Ritalin and Adderall to their children.
    Maybe your buddie's grown adult offspring should have taken their child to a different doctor.
     
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