The Just War. Myth or Fact?

Yes, most people react very objectively to being called stupid tom, what was I thinking

 

Do you have a problem of taking statements far too literally? Perhaps. Fine, most of the world won't go against us, no sovereign nation will actually attack us.

 

And why should I care what people like you and MadCapsyd think, whether objectively or not? You have made 100% sure that I consider your opinions to be that of unedcuated children who have no clue.

 

You haven't actually made a valid counter point yet and you seem in denial about the current geo-political world situation of the past 50 years.

 

Do I have a problem reading the words a person writes and assuming that they are what they mean? Why yes I do actually.

It comes from the fact that all we have to communicate with over this site is with the words we type.

Is that too difficult for you to understand?

 

We know that you don't care tom, and we are aware you consider us uneducated children, which is why having a conversation with you is extremely amusing.

 

Yep, your right... I'm in denial and know nothing about the world...

 

Well yes

 

Because without that verdict you could not feel superior.

 

Mr Tom seems overly abrasive. Wonder how that's working with his attempted commune in the frozen north,if that came together. Not the first time I've noticed. So it goes.

 

You have just made a direct personal attack that was in no way related to the topic being discussed.

 

Like calling someone stupid wasn't a direct personal attack not on topic.

 

My comments have always been in the context of what was being discussed.

Where does my home or my life come into there being a just war or not?

 

Actually, it is indirect, but it appears well aimed.

 

Where does calling someone stupid come into play in a discussion on whether war can be just or not. If someone had asked what the capital of Spain is and a poster replied Lisbon, then that would be stupid.

 

In direct response to the comments being made regarding what is just or not.

 

No, the topic is on just wars, not on whether someones opinion is stupid or not

 

"Just war" is a dangerous concept.

(Its also a bit grammatically weird in that "war" isn't the noun being modified by the adjective "just". "Just" doesn't modify the "war", but the actions of one of the combatants. When people say that WWII was a "just war", they don't mean that the war was just, or that the Axis acted for justice, but that the Allies were acting for justice.)

Its hard to say that there are no just wars. (Were the actions of the French government in WWII just? Would they have been judicial to their citizens had they capitulated without fighting?)

From a utilitarian stand point, I'm very suspicious of claims that "we need to go fight in that just war". More than once, evil has used "justice" to justify itself.

Is a particular war just? I'll leave that to St.Peter.

War kills innocents and should be avoided if possible, are a more practical objervations than whether a war is "just".

 

^ thank you for getting this thread back on topic.

 

I voted yes but that's not all together true.

I don't believe war is ever 'just', it is, however, sometimes unavoidable.