The "I" must die! |--|

once again, very sad for you khar....

so many know every word in the book
"christians" call their "bible", yet they
have never experienced The Messiah
or The Power that resurrected Him.

your words bear witness to your fleshly
mind and actions.

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you might accept deliverance from the "I"

"i" is but poor and needy and trusts that Our Father will
supply all needs, not wants, both today and forever.

may you experience ASpiritualJourney.Org

and then you will know Peace,
even as war(carnal and spiritual) rages....... francisco

 

I guess. I am exactly where God wants me. I feel pretty good about that. Maybe you don't understand God as well as you think you do. I would suggest you read "Ascent of Mount Carmel" by St. John of the Cross and "The Celestine Prophecy" (a ficticious work that has some good insights into the way God works).

Umm. Yeah. Sure buddy. Maybe you don't live with God's grace blessing every aspect of your life, but I do. God gave us the flesh. It is a gift. You should know that everything in your life is a gift from God. You don't need to let worldly (carnal) or spiritual (spiritual..haha) worries effect you if you have true faith in God.
You might be one of those brothers whose conscious is effected when they see someone eating meat sacrificed to idols. While I know all things are from God, therefore it doesn't matter if someone sacrifices meat to idols- the meat is still God's, someone with a soft conscious (weak faith) might think that eating that meat makes you farther from God (which it doesn't).

Again, from which I?

umm, sure, that's what God always does, you know, takes care of us. God does nice sweet things for me. So, umm, huh?

War, peace, whatever God knows is the best.

 

clear that your reading is what you are:-(

nothing but colored marks written on a dead tree.

may you one day experience and receive of The Life.

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Do you understand that what someone reads is like what someone eats?
I am what God made me, nothing more, nothing less. I cannot be more than what God made me, I cannot be less. If you feel some sadness that God made me as God did, maybe it is because you do not understand why God made me as I am.

Ahh, such a dead way of perceiving life.

A life other than the one God provides me? There are many more things God can add to me, do you refer to them? Of course God would not give me something that I am not ready for, but if there is some Good God desires to give me, God already is preparing me to receive it.

War, even as Peace is taught, Kharakov

 

once again, with feeling.....

all you know are the colored marks written on a dead tree.
which is no-life, naught but mental masturbation for
self-gratification.

"i am for peace, yet when i speak they are for war".
experienced, no longer just colored marks for Truth
experienced genders The Life.

peace, even as war rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

You do not know what I know, unless you are God (or as you call God "The Great Spirit") or God has told you what I know. From your remarks about my knowledge, I do not believe you know what I know. I sit with the spirit and communicate without words and other times the spirit will play with me with words. Sometimes with feelings, sometimes with visions, sometimes with dreams, sometimes with songs. A word, to me, has far more depth than a colored mark written on a dead tree. You are a pathetic wretch if you believe that there is no life in words as well as other parts of the great spirit.

What the hell are you talking about? Maybe your problem with colored marks written on dead trees stems from you not understanding language and it's use.

 

Genesis and Devon, the beautiful colored marks upon dead trees which is part of what the spirit gives to me. How would I know more than what the spirit offers? How would I have more than what the spirit gives?

If you find it sad that the spirit limits me in any way, it is but a lesson the spirit gives to you. If you were chosen to have more, rejoice in my forced suffering, be glad that you were not created as I am, but never feel sorry for me, for what the spirit has given me is all I have and all I will ever know- and if the spirit feels that it is sufficient, it must be, unless the Great Spirit itself is at fault.

 

The Great Spirit gives and gives and gives,,,,,,,
that which is given needs be received.

read of the words you have written.

they reveal the spirit within you.
it is yet the spirit of man.

there are multitudes of spirits yet only
One Way to The Truth of The Life.

and all those who seek to follow
that One Way must "die to "I""!

may such be your desire.

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

your "god" must be a selfish "god"?

now could be you have not embraced simplicity.

When your "I" finds rest in The Life of "i", then you will "see".
As The Messiah so also will "u" come before the "i" in "me".

peace, even as wars rage....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

simplicity has convinced me, i have been to "wordy".
tried to be to "cute" with words.

forgive me.......

simply, The Messiah testified, "if any man desires to
follow Me let him deny himself......." (deny "I")

peace, even as war rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

sad, did not know you were a "catholic" which is to be of those
who know nothing but colored marks written on a dead tree.

and so they build a religious system grounded in their imagination.
a religion of images and self worship:-(

had thought the place where "day is the night of the moon" would
be a good place for "midnight moonlight".

seems i erred once again, sad:-(

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

I say to you the same thing. God has made you as you are to reveal some aspect of God's creation. You can be no more than God has made you.

If God has shown you that you are an "I", than God reveals to you what you are in God's eyes. What you think has been placed in you by God. If God plans to build upon the thought of "I" within you, this is what God will do. Can you not be an "I" and at the same time a part of everything else that is an "I"? I can.

It is like the middle space of the tree of life: Tephirot. It is symbolized by the divine ratio 62/38. The sense of self that is between the infinite and the finite.

 

khar, you serve and believe in a different "god",

and i have experienced the unlife of "I".

once again, sad for you.

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Really? What God do you serve and believe in?

What is this unlife of "I"?

Truthfully, Fransisco, your comments are very annoying (which is probably your intent, at least it is God's). You explain nothing, yet you throw out words with deep implications.

While you are part of a greater being, you still have your own identity. If you deny this, you are lying. So, if you do not experience the "I" it is because you lie to your self, which is a pathetic and sad accomplishment for one who implies that they have some sort of spiritual wisdom.

Describe "The Life".
Describe "the unlife of I".

If you cannot, than do not speak of them again until you can describe them. A person who claims to know how to add who cannot teach the operation of addition is as useless as a person who claims to have spiritual insight yet cannot convey it.

I leave it at this. I am not making this comment as a troll or as an ad hominem: I am just describing what you appear to be: You appear to be a useless asshole, in the worst sense. If you support your vague comments in any way, I will change my mind, otherwise you should go into some corner and shoot yourself in the head for the betterment of all. If you do, please leave a suicide note that has an apology addressed to me within it's text.

 

change your mind? you need to lose it!

if you can not comprehend the teachings
and The Life example of the One called
The Messiah anything i would attempt to
"describe" would become but a playground
for imagination.

it is clear that you love not The Truth and
have been braindirtyed to the utmost!

yet while you have breath(spirit) there is hope!

for The Messiah taught and lived The Life perfectly!

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

the desciption you desire is in those Words of Life,
may the "eye of your understanding" be opened.

peace, even as war rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Where it at? Where it at?

Comprehend I do, young Skywalker. Faith you must have to see the Force living in all things.

I love God, a lot of people, Wendy's $ menu (actually, technically it's $.99 menu (I think)). I love being dirty and I love being clean. Of course, there is a saying that applies to people like you (lol): First remove the plank from your eye before you attempt to remove the splinter from your brothers.

As one dumbass to another, lemme tell you the only reason Jesus said this is because he know's that God (the father) has a perfect plan of which he does not know all of the details (even if some of the details appear a little bit on the gruesome side).

War, even as peace is Reigning Blood from a lascerated sky, Kharakov

 

once again khar your words prove your need....... not that
we don't all need to be more liken unto The Messiah.......

i had written:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

the desciption you desire is in those Words of Life,
may the "eye of your understanding" be opened.


and you responded:

As one dumbass to another, lemme tell you the only reason Jesus said this is because he know's that God (the father) has a perfect plan of which he does not know all of the details (even if some of the details appear a little bit on the gruesome side).

obvious that you have not embraced simplicity.......

The Messiah testified: "the words that i speak are not my words but they are the words of my Father", "the works i do are not my works, they are the works of my Father", "i do nothing of mine ownself", "nevertheless Father, THY Will, not my will, Be Done".

once again:

The Messiah taught and lived The Life perfectly!

simply, The Way to The Truth of The Life is;

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

the description you desired is in those Words of Life,
may the "eye of your understanding" be opened.

"I" must die..period..

till then, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

God knows all I need and provides. I need needs in order for God to provide for my needs. I needed to say 'need needs' in a sentence.

Your words are planned by the Father as mine are.

I have and I let it go. Simplicity isn't something to be captured and held. Let it come and go as God desires for you.

Umm, that is what happens. What are you talking about?

Ok. Please let me know which I you refer to and I will help you kill it (unless, of course, God wants the I to live, in which case, you are gonna have to let your obsession with killing I's die).

 

your words testify against you khar.

for now khar, all you "know" is "flesh" and some "colored marks
written on a dead tree". mere words that you use to your
own destruction.

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spriritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Francisco- You know that was an old message you brought up? What about the last one on the previous page?

Uhoh. Sounds bad, ohh great wise one. Thanks for letting me know.

God testifies for me, which is good enough for me. I wonder if you are aware that you are being a fool?

Arghhh!#@! Shazbat!!! Your words describe me so well! Flesh is good- I like a good steak or a womens body, but I like spiritual pleasures as well.

It's great to be able to enjoy what God provides.

What exactly do you mean by "colored marks written on a dead tree"? I can draw many pictures from that statement- the written word, maybe you refer to the bible, a porn magazine, photographs, anything printed with a color printer, or literally colored marks written on a dead tree (which I am sure I have seen at some point in my life, but I don't recall it now), or maybe the dead tree could be symbolic for the tree of knowledge and the colored marks are the writing upon it?

There are so many things you could mean by that statement- you must be more specific unless you are being intentionally vague in order to make me think of multiple interpretations?

The whole thing about my words being used for my own destruction- well, destruction is a pretty hardcore word. Lets look at the m-w definition of it, shall we?

Destruction: 1 : the state or fact of being destroyed : [size=-1]RUIN[/size]
2 : the action or process of destroying something
3 : a destroying agency

Destroy:
1 : to ruin the structure, organic existence, or condition of <destroyed the files>; also : to ruin as if by tearing to shreds <their reputation was destroyed>
2 a : to put out of existence : [size=-1]KILL[/size] b : [size=-1]NEUTRALIZE[/size] <the moon destroys the light of the stars> c : [size=-1]ANNIHILATE[/size], [size=-1]VANQUISH[/size]

Hmm, can I interprete your statement to mean my own words are used for the destruction of the flesh so I can be reborn in a spiritual body or do you mean something entirely different?