The History of Rock and Roll

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  1. Moonglow181

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    I met Kris Kristofferson once, and had a crush on him for awhile. He played at a cozy club in Manhattan one year, and then was accessible to everyone there that night. He was kind, genuine and lovely.
     
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  3. Gongshaman

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    Meanwhile...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93-hlwULUk"]FEVER - Little Willie John - 1956 - YouTube
     
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  5. Asmodean

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    A few years later :p:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFCi20gucAg&feature=kp"]Earl Hooker - Wah Wah Blues pt. I - YouTube
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So as we leave the fifties behind play the video below as I ramble on a little more and you'll get an idea of what music was like as Rock and Roll began. Some great samples of songs here, don't skip this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVKAVJO-1wY"]Top 30 Greatest Songs 1950-1959 (According to Dave's Music Database) - YouTube
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    Growing up there were no malls or big box stores. Blue Laws were in effect on Sundays, so very few stores were open. Life revolved around the city or small town, that's where almost all shopping took place. The corner drugstore had an ice cream fountain. Saturday matinees consisted of a live act, newsreels, cartoons, and a double feature. Milk was delivered to your home. Most families had only one car, which was shared by the whole family. Teenagers got to use it on Friday or Saturday night. That's when cruising, drive-ins, and submarine races occurred.
    45's, AM radio, and later transistor radios ruled. Girls gathered to listen to the latest 45 at some one's home, and the radio played every weekend as teenage boys worked on cars in the driveway, as they needed constant repair.

    Schools were highly regimented with dress codes and chaperoned sock hops. Duck and Cover was practiced and air raid shelters were everywhere. Any time a siren went off everyone would listen. As long as it didn't continue for 3 minutes, you were okay for now.
    Snow was radioactive, Sputnik flew overhead, and everyone got the Mumps, Whooping Cough, Measles and Chickenpox.

    And the beats had arrived.
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    The Beatles had an "a" as a Beat Generation reference...Ginsberg was a friend of Bob Dylan and Ken Kesey... Ray Manzarek said "We wanted to be beatniks"....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCRZxIqMZ8"]Best Songs of the 1950s (1953-1957) - YouTube

    Tammy's in love.....
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  9. Gongshaman

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  11. Karen_J

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    I was actually thinking about a wide variety of musical genres. I think it's a mistake to focus too much on just one category for a great amount of time. Or else you'll never know what you might be missing.

    I saw that Les Paul got mentioned as a performer, on the #23 hit, but he contributed so much more to music. His technological innovations included the solid body electric guitar that became the backbone of rock, and the basic technology of multitrack recording. His radio show, and the TV show that replaced it, lasted throughout the fifties. Being such an innovative guy, he was always open to having guests who were pushing the boundaries of music in various ways.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Paul

    I'm glad that second YouTube clip had some do-wap pop. That stuff is so addictive! Can't sit still for it. I love the sentimental melodies and countermelodies too. So much larger than life. When I was a little girl, this is what all the oldies stations on FM played. It's hard to find that stuff now.
     
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  13. Gongshaman

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    Do-wop is interesting for those tight harmony chords and the way the counter-melodies
    ( you didn't want to say 'contrapuntal' did you ;)) push and pull at the chord, those little momentary dissonances that are resolved before you even know it... pretty cool actually :cheers2:
    Bach would have been impressed.
     
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  15. MeAgain

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp4N910QaNY"]Les Paul- Solo Song and Interview (Merv Griffin Show 1966) - YouTube


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeHaWG1dyOw"]Les Paul & Mary Ford - In The Good Old Summertime - Steel Guitar Rag - YouTube​
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So on to the sixties.
    This is probably the greatest era of musical experimentation in the modern world. In my opinion. Especially if we include the early seventies, up to about 1973, which we won't.

    There are so many songs that stand out that I'll just pick ones I like, or are seldom heard, or that I think are influential.
    And I'll try to present them in relative chronological order, but I get confoosed sometimes as I may have heard it after it came out, or I forgot about it then suddenly remembered it after I already talked about that year, or I'm just being an idiot.

    And so on.

    So 1960.
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  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    1960 was basically 1959 a year later except for the notes below....

    Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, and Frankie Valens were dead. Elvis was discharged from of the Army. Jerry Lee was still blackballed, Eddie Cochran dies in a car crash and Gene Vincent is badly hurt.

    The payola investigation of 1959 results in Alan Freed being blackballed for refusing to sign an affidavit on principle and fading from the music industry. “Protect your ass at all times" Brylcreem using Dick Clark escapes with a wrist slap after selling off all his incriminating interests prior to the hearing.

    Elvis and the Everly Brothers have hits in 1960.
    Joan Baez, Roy Orbison, Chubby Checker, Booby Vee, Sam Cooke, and Brenda Lee all appear.

    The Ventures introduce Surf Music and The Miracles bring us Motown.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owq7hgzna3E"]The Ventures "Walk Don't Run" - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5509mcQd8"]Smokey Robinson & The Miracles 1960 /Shop Around/ - YouTube
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  21. Gongshaman

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    that's one of the first "rock 'n roll songs I ever learned on guitar...

    That and this one..


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqC3BjIyq_0&feature=kp"]The Ventures - PIPELINE - YouTube
     
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  23. Karen_J

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    Physically, Buddy Holly was dead, but the record company still had a ton of unreleased material that would trickle out for years.

    Do you agree with all of Don McLean's hype about Holly's significance? A lot of big sixties musicians claim that Holly influenced them greatly, but nobody ever seems to explain how they were influenced. I feel like I'm missing a part of the story.
     
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  25. scratcho

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    " all a'my love, all a'my kissin'----you don't know what you've been a'missin, oh boy." He was kind of one of the first rock-a-billy performers, I think. I liked him OK.
     
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  27. Gongshaman

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    I really didn't get that cartoon-ish vibrato/tremolo he used on "Peggy sue"... too funny:smilielol5:
     
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  29. Gongshaman

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    He sang like that on other stuff too..
     
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  31. Karen_J

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    Me neither. People still make fun of Elvis for using it too much on songs like Blue Christmas.

    Based on what I've heard up to now, I'd say Don McLean sang better than his idol.
     
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  33. MeAgain

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    I don't know a lot about Buddy Holly, but according to the net:
    He was a gifted guitar player, unlike Elvis.
    He wrote and arranged his own songs, unlike Elvis.
    He used echo, double-tracking and overdubbing which was all new and experimental at the time.
    He was the first to use a Stratocaster and not be concerned about his appearance on stage.
    He recorded 110 songs from '57 to '59.
    The Crickets were the first self contained Rock band.

    The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Byrds, Eric Clapton, Pete Townshend, Bruce Springsteen, Keith Richards, and Elton John all credit Holly.

    John Lennon has been quoted as saying that the Beatles never would have existed without Holly.

    So I guess he was pretty important. I think his vocal style was left over from his country music days.
     
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  35. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Here's his brother and Peggy Sue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqzY9LPWZxw"]Memories of Buddy Holly - 4/27/2013 - YouTube
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  37. Gongshaman

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    Buddy wasn't touring with the crickets on that fateful day of his demise, as he was having contractual problems with them and had been touring with a fill-in band that happened to have as bass player that was to later be one of the famous 'Outlaws', Waylon Jennings. Waylon and other band members had decided to take the bus instead of flying. Waylon and Buddy were great friends and just before boarding the plane, having a joking exchange, Buddy said to Waylon "well I hope the bus crashes!" Waylon returned with "yeah and I hope your plane crashes! ha ha!"...That would be the last thing Waylon would ever say to his best friend.
     
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  39. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    1960


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXNhSx0q8uA"]The Road Runner-Buddy Wayne. - YouTube

    1963

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NwQv9EZ7Uw&list=PLB323869F21471DFC&feature=share"]The Lawrence Welk Show: Pipeline - YouTube
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