Apparently all women in the UK are now effectively working for free until the end of the year, due the existing gender pay gap in the UK. So now's the time to go and get yourself a hooker! Prozzies are all free now in the UK until 2017, wahay.... Joking aside, there is a way to end this discord in our respective yearly stipends. All we need to do is either everyone declares themselves transgender, or X% of people have the op. That should balance the books.
It used to be a thing. My mum is waiting for a legal ruling to get compo for it when she worked as a nurse. But now? I don't buy it. It just seems like women and the lgbt community are always being discriminated against. Hello? It's the 21st century now. We all have the same rights, unless you're a drug user of course. Get over it.
It's a pertinent issue. I think that women should be paid at the same rate as men. I don't know if they aren't promoted or given raises as readily, or what the problem is though.
I think everyone should be paid at the same rate, but obviously that's raises it's own complications. Most people are underpaid and work in a system that can be likened in many ways to slavery. I fail to see any profession these days where woman are not paid equally for the same job as men. For one thing it would be probably illegal, wouldn't it? It might be the case that statistically overall men earn more than women, because I don't know the types of jobs men are more likely to do, for instance dangerous jobs like working on an oil rig, or a prison officer... I think it may simply be the types of jobs that men and women are more likely to do that is creating the impression of a gender pay gap. This technically isn't a gender pay gap though, it's just a pay gap between professional disciplines.
I think you're right. There must be something in the statistics that gives women the appearance of getting short changed. I don't know that there is any benefit to not paying women as well, anyway. Clearly they should be paid according to the same standards as men.
Well I've worked in a lot of bars and women always made more money in tips than I ever did. You don't hear them complaining about that though.
Actually Trangenders are still discriminated against. No so much in the payroll, as much as in not letting them inside the building at all. As for gays, well, gay is the new straight it seems.
Folk are always going to find transgender people a bit weird though, so I'm afraid like it or not we all have to accept human nature and that sometimes they might be discriminated against. I'm not saying it's right and I certainly don't do that. But by the same token men are discriminated against for being men. Ever tried to get in a night club on your own as a single white guy? It can be problematic. Even more so if your a little bit drunk and stoned and maybe a bit alternative. Things have changed a lot in my lifetime for the lgbt community and women though, and to be honest I think they all pretty much have the same rights as everyone else now, more or less
I wanna start my business in this liberal fantasy land where women get paid less than men, and hire only women. That way I don't have to pay them as much.
Women are paid the same amount as men. The only reason they might not be paid as much as men is because they work less. /thread
Dwarves earn more money than most people, because they are dwarves and good for certain TV and film genres. Plus there's not as many of them. I think therefore it's only fair to everyone else that the pay gap between dwarves and humans be normalised?
One thing no one has touched upon is women are also less likely to pursue higher paying, highly skilled jobs in STEM fields. And this is something that really needs to be addressed long before women enter the job market. I do remember hearing a story on NPR a while back about what primary school educators are doing to involve girls more in STEM related studies, so maybe we will see this change in a generation or so.
What do you mean by STEM? I don't think women are less likely to pursue careers that require more professionalism or skill or whatever at all anymore, not in the UK anyway. But maybe they might feel put off I can understand that. the point is they have no greater or less oppotrunity than anyone else nowadays. In fact, it seems a bit like if you are a woman, or you are lgbtqxdrm you might stand a greater chance over 5 other boring white male candidates, and the company needs to maintain a tolerant persona...
science, technology, engineering, and math I don't think women have less opportunity in these fields, they're just less likely to pursue them for whatever reason. but I do think this is changing. But since these jobs are typically high paying, if there are less women filling these positions it could account for part of the perceived gap.
But on the flip side, companies are gung-ho about hiring women into STEM careers. Since there's a huge push to get more women into STEM careers. I work in a STEM field, and my company hired a new girl in our office. The big bosses of the company were all giving themselves a big pat on the back for bringing a lady on board. I didn't think much of it at all, since I don't really see gender as a big deal. Like me, she has an entry level job, but with less responsibilities than I. And after helping train her, I learned recently that not only does she not have much education in this field, but this is her 1st job she ever had! She recently graduated high school for god's sake. And many design engineering graduates struggle to find a job, let alone an internship for a company like mine. When I got out of college, I would've killed to have the menial entry-level job she has. No company wanted to hire me or many of my friends out of school. I had to do over a year of freelancing while I worked as a security guard, and have evidence of professional work in my portfolio before any employer could take me seriously. While I won't say that the whole STEM subject is absolutely gender biased against men, and I realize my example could be a rare case. I do think it strongly favors women over men nowadays. I don't understand the huge push to get women into STEM fields anyways. There's a huge gender gap in other professions like nursing and veterinary medicine where females dominate in numbers. Why's there no push to make more male nurses? There are more females attending and graduating college right now anyway. So I'd say this "long needed change" has already happened.
I work for a company where besides the owners and perhaps one tech guy, women and non-white males are the highest paid in the company and I even have the longest tenure there outside of the owners immeadiate family. So while it's only anecdotal evidence, I have grown to have zero compassion for this notion. I acknowledge that I may not recognize alot of what goes on throughout the country, but I think I am far more qualified than nearly all my higher ups and even have to cover their asses from time to time. So basically I think the gender gap is bullshit or reliant on very selective statistics.
