The future is over rated

Something illogical can't be proven illogical if it isn't first proven logical. Now see that is logical just like this is.

But this isn't.

If you believe in reincarnation my whole previous statement makes perfect sense

 

Seriously why is EVERYONE so concerned with looks? Are there really that FEW people who have realized that looks can be VERY deceiving and it's what is on the inside that really matters. Sure sex is great, but I personally find pointless sex (strictly for pleasure and not happiness) as not worth it. Would you really want to spend time with a person that is physically attractive but an absolute asshole, or just plain stupid etc...Even just the slightest bit inconsiderate person turns me off. I guess when I "make love' I make love to the person within, sort of a physical act that is representative of the actual love we have for each other. The wailing souls summed up what sex means to me in one line, "It is the act of affection that puts my love in to motion."

 

Are we getting into that it's the inside that matters thing again?

 

I didn't realize we had already got into it? If my thoughts on the subject of "Sex" which I found to be a large part of this thread offend you, or differ from that of your own then I suppose that's just the way things are. I'm just stating my opinion, not trying to spark what you claim is a repeated conversation. If someone feels the need to reply though, by all means please do...I'd rather here someone else's opinions that my own, cause I already know em.

 

I wasn't offended.

I don't have opinions per se. It's just that I've hear your logic very very often.

One of those cliches that might be true or whatever.

 

Isn't that what every post basically is? People posting their thoughts and opinions regarding whatever the topic is? If you don't want to listen to what I have to say, then just don't read it. I don't personally find it cliche, as that was a very broad overview of how I view sex, and my views on it probably differ from most....far from cliche if you ask me.

 

Say what you want.

It's funny though. Everyone who says the inside is what matters think they are in the minority.

I don't see how. Everybody says that.

 

Really?.....and you live in New York......maybe we just perceive two very different worlds.

I base most if not all my opinions on what I've seen, heard and experienced and from those three sources I've concluded that people don't usually really care 100% about what's within. Sure some care about specific qualities from within, but not fully, at least not from what I've experienced.

 

It reminds me of conservatives who always perceive the world as getting more immoral and violent.

Even when crime is down.

Not calling you a conservative however.

Yeah. We probably depart from different places. But I don't think New York has anything to do with it.

People say it here and every other place I've been to: "the inside is what matters. why does everybody think looks matter?"

 

That's because saying and actually doing are two VERY different things....

 

I agree with that.

But there is a reason why people don't do what they say. Maybe they are expecting something from themselves that isn't doable.

But like I said, I'm confused on that issue. I used to think the "inside is what matters" crowd was off their rockers.

These days I give them partial credit.

 

as far as I'm concerned, looks do matter.

 

By the way, zen: I'm loving not having a sig and avatar.

You inspired me!

But there is no way in hell I'm leaving "senior member" up there you lazy bum!

 

Agreed, if I am going to be in a romantic relationship with someone then both things matter

 

Well, I appreciate those who take care of their bodies, but I try never to judge based even the slightest bit on physical attributes one cannot choose. Basic examples of these qualities are skin color, eye color, hair color, curly hair, straight hair, their facial structure, bone structure etc...It's the things one is born with that I feel is wrong to judge them by.

So I agree, if I'm in a relationship with another I'd like for them to take care of their body and respect themselves, but so long as their personality is beatiful I'll ask for little more.

 

It's not judging.

It's a matter of who I'm gonna have a physically affectionate relationship with.

If someone is not physically attractive to me, then we're by definition platonic.

If someone is physically attractive but I don't vibe with them real well, I may or may not engage them purely on a physical level.

If it's both, it's both.

Simple.

 

yes, this is my way of expressing myself.

 

I understand what you're saying, and I respect your way of looking at it, as you really aren't causing any harm and I never thought your way of looking at "it" was really judgmental in the first place. I can truly say I understand too, because I'm a dude and I know that seeing an attractive girl grabs your attention...for sure it does at first glance, I just am more attracted to a girl who I know has a great personality. Both are definetely a plus. Don't get me wrong, I feel where you are coming from and I really hope you aren't thinking that I'm frowning upon it or anything like that.

 

I won't date anyone I don't find physically attractive.

how lofty of you.

 

yepper,
but i wont spend much time with a lady I dont find beautiful inside too.