The Free Speech Crisis

The Supremes took away our free speech when they dismantled the constitutional protections and insisted corporations can advertise all they want for whatever political candidates and agendas they support. The problem is, our legal system copyrights words, and calling them free is bullshit! Trump literally attempted to sue someone for calling their business "Trump" because he copyrighted the name. Copyrights are supposed to encourage innovation and creativity, not be used to suppress freedom of speech, but our corporations now have the legal right to both prevent people from using certain terms and to advertise their own views as much as they like. The public has no rights anymore, and money is doing all the talking worth listening for, because you've been sold down the river by the KKK.

It is illegal to vote for Mickey Mouse, or to even use his name and image, despite the fact his copyright was supposedly good for 100 years, ran out, and was not supposed by be renewed by the courts. Disney isn't like the rest of us human beings, they are both a person and a corporation and can buy the courts in a heartbeat.

 

I dont want to address anything with a person that makes up his own facts when he cant find any that suits him ( not the first time i have told you this ,). Free speech should also mean choosing not to.

 

Some people confuse criticism with personal attacks. Maybe they find it easier to refute it as a personal attack so they can just nag on that and leave it behind as something petty. It often seems a deliberate tactic.

 

I just think opinions should be based on objective reality...provable facts, figures. It isnt about how many people believe something, it is about what can be supported with information that has been verified and proven.


And I also think people often get confused about freedom of speech and think it means anything can be said without consequence or disagreement, but that isnt so.
You can say whatever you want but if it isnt based on objective reality, other people are free to exercise their own freedom of speech and disagree.

 

Also I think this thread is more about the spread of misinformation under the guise of free speech. Which is why it's so important to learn to be critical of sources

 

Obviously But if its consistently done after someone asks you to explain a bold statement it does imply something. People who only want to share some subjective truth that doesn't seem to hold up to scrutiny (as unfortunately nobody is explaining it) aren't really discussing.

 

One in five Americans insists the sun revolves around the earth and our government is led by the KKK, making misinformation and freedom of speech the least of our problems.

 

Uhm... the sun revolving around the earth IS misinformation. And the US gubberment being led by the KKK is an charged/exaggerated statement, exactly what the OP is about. It's not the exact truth anymore because the assertion has to be overly bold according to the maker

 

Bullshit, the entire leadership of the republican party and the entire Libertarian party are card carrying members of the KKK and our glorious leader it being allowed to do all the insane things he does, because they let him. People believe the sun revolves around the earth, because its the simplest explanation and the truth makes no difference whatsoever in their lives, while arguing that everybody lies to them makes all the difference in the world.

 

Some people are always offended, and the customer is always right. Americans just try too hard to stay in business. People build their lives around being seen as professionals, and they take every complaint uber seriously. Thus we have political correctness.

People who get extremely personally offended by stupid shit have always been a pet peeve of mine. I never voice a complaint. Okay, sometimes a complaint may be in order, but almost always it isn't. Still, the dumbass customer demands satisfaction in America. Nobody can be seen as getting one up on you, or as some put it "fucking you in the ass." As if anything is that personal. It's annoying and stupid.

 

So... What exactly are you calling bullshit?

 

The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is not misinformation, and all of these people have been to public school and know better. They choose to believe whatever the fuck appeals to them more, because they are convinced everybody lies through their teeth to them, and actually spouting the truth can be dangerous. Money and the guns are the only thing deciding who they listen to and who they ignore and what they spout. Lynch mobs are like that, and don't encourage people to share their words and play nice.

 

this made me think that one big issue is that people use Twitter, Facebook etc for entertainment, and making politics into entertainment is scary. people have chosen a side, and if they find themselves on the "wrong" side (the one that isn't supported by facts, evidence), they just do whatever they can to Win.
on some level no-one is really taking any of it that seriously. it's just a big reality show. polarising issues to their extremes just makes it more entertaining.

 

My own family will tell you straight out that they don't have time for all the nonsense. They are too busy making money and living their lives and want the government and corporations to spoon feed them whatever they need to know, while lying to them for their own protection. The longer the hours they work, the more money they make, the less they want anything to do with democracy. For them, democracy is just a pain in the ass they have to pay extra for.

Seriously people, if you have never known fascists personally, stop attempting to second guess them. Just assume you've been spoonfed crap all your life and examine the facts for yourself. The fucking KKK is in charge of the world's most powerful country, and you are debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

 

Just about everythng. Haven't you been following?

 

Without bullshit, the truth is rather boring and of dubious value.

 

Well, technically sun does revolve around the earth, just a lot less noticeably than the earth revolves around the sun. Sun revolves around itself too, so technically it isnt the centre of the solar system either

 

Question sources?

Default position here seems to be if someone is attached to a university and publishes a paper, that makes them an expert, thus everything in that paper can only be true. I dont see a whole lot of questioning that.

Finance in particular, there arent any experts at the moment on how to handle a post internet, zero inflation world, it will be a good 2 or 3 decades before it comes clear what the best methods are

So what does happen when there are no experts, or the experts arent actually experts?

 

Gimmie 5 minutes brah, I'll write you up something.

 

And you will be one hundred percent fucking right mate !