Welcome to the begining of fascism. You'll know things have gotten really serious and fucked up when there arent dissadents like me talking on these forums. Even if you disagree with what I have to say, count your blessings that the state isnt so bad that people like me are dragged off to some camp for saying it, remember, the dissadents were the very first group of people the Nazi state targetted, and from there......the point is we cant let it happen again, and it is beginning to.
You forgot the native indians we murder the blacks we enslave and the american japanases we stuck in concentration camp and lost theyr homes and jobs part.
All those are past examples. A good modern one is the Asians we get to do the majority of our work for pennies an hour. This is a terrible practise and one that I daresay rivals 1800's slavery. Indeed, it is cheaper to hand a sweatshop worker $4 per week and have them come back out of fear of starvation than it is to keep them prisoner and have to feed and clothe them, and make sure they dont escape. This is the new slavery.
too bad that dpoesnt happen in america. if anyone, asians are the least oppressed. they got all the money. very rarely will you see a homeless asian man.
and not just zionists are for isreal. regular jews too. i dont get why if muslims have almost the whole middle east, why can they let the jews have some land. they are the only people without a home.
Take a look at history, Jews and Muslims have gotten along fine in Palestine as well as Arab Christians. The problem arose when European Imperialist Christians came to the land and claimed it for themselves (and killed many Jewish people on the way, and tonnes of Muslims when they got there). Zionism is the same, but the Imperialists are (primarily European) Jews this time. Now the problem is not that there are Jews in Palestine, the problem is that many of the Jews want a Jews-only state (quite contrary to modern values of ethno-religious tolerance I may add). The problem isnt that Jews build homes in Palestine, the problem is that those homes are build on top of the rubble of Palestinian homes which were demolished to make way for the Zionists' homes. If the Jews wanted to return to their ancestral holy land, they were allways able to (especially during the Arab Caliphates and early Ottoman Empire), however, if the Jews wanted to establish an imperialistic and racist state exclusively for Jews, there are plenty of uninhabbited places for them to do so. You must understand that there is a difference between a Jew in Palestine and a Zionist Israeli. The former has every right to be there and the latter does not. There is enough land in Palestine to accomidate the Jews who allready live there, as well as support the return of all the Palestinians in forced exile. You must understand the irony in this situation. The Jews, by and large, did not live in Palestine at the turn of the century because they were evicted by the Roman Empire 2000 years ago. When they return, under their imperialist zionist flag, what is the first thing that is done? They kick 90% of Palestinians from their land, and treat the remaining 10% as second class citizens good only for cheap labour. Do not support Israel because it is the Jewish state and you are Jewish, this makes about as much sense as American Germans who support the third reich because it was the German state. There were many German Americans who supported Hitler for this reason, so it is an apt comparison. As well, there were many Germans who stood up against Hitler and the Reich, both in Germany and abroad, there are also many great Jewish people who are staunch advocates against the occupation and oppression of the Palestinians, both in Israel and abroad. Only if the occupation is ended, and Israel ceases to be a Jews-only racist state do I see Israel surviving the next half-century. Clearly, the problem with Israel is not that it is full of Jewish people, but that it is ran by racist Jewish imperialists.
I LOVE chomsky. He himself is an excellent example of Jewish anti-zionism. Jewish anti-zionism is extremely tentamount to the anti-zionist movement in general. They are the proof that anti-zionism and anti-semitism are absolutly different things. I myself would argue that zionism is a form of anti-semitism...the Arabs are a semitic people.
Israel is a crock of shit. Its a western stronghold in the middle east started by the british. Woven by the Nazis, instituted by the UN and America after the war. Its been a long time coming, THEY control Israel. The same THEY in that little avatar of Ewokutopias. It was THEY who setup the holocaust, as a reason for them to push this "zion" crap. Its like selling your house, then a few years later you get beat up by someone else, then you go back and kick those people out of your old house, and say well leave now cuz more backing me are coming so I know this is not my rightfull home but I used to live here and this is part of my past so I deserve it more than you, so you guys can go be homeless now. Is that fair? Why isn't Israel in Germany? Or Montana for that matter? In my opinion it all correlates to the ideal of moschiach Ive said this in other posts, if they can rebuild the temple under Zionist Imperial Control with occult relations and a secret society agenda. Then they can usher in a false era of the messiah, give the jewish people their last sacrifice, and use them all to their own deaths. Just so we can have some oil, some remaining gold beneath the temple mount, and maybe a few ancient relics and scrolls of occult power and rituals. Its time people really knew wahts under the temple, whats in the holy land, that makes it so holy. That no one can let go of it. THE TEMPLARS DID NOT TAKE ALL THE GOLD. THERE IS STILL ENOUGH GOLD TO BRING WEALTH FOR COMING CENTURIES TO THOSE WHO COME UP WITH IT. Wheter its metallic gold, black gold, or spiritual gold its up for grabs. Its time the public knew. Its time we let the true jews rebuild their temple, before these lunatic Imperialist race promoting NAZIS by every sense of the word succeed.
Interestingly enough, Lenin (who was part Jewish himself) set up a Jewish Homeland in the 20's. It is still a part of Russia, but is completely autonomous. It is called (very uncreativly) the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, and its about the size of Belgium and is located in the Russian Far East, near Manchuria. I have seen pictures, and the land looks very similar to my home, Central Ontario, which is easily good enough for any people. Imagine if this was to be its own country and the Jewish people who want a homeland could go there? It would solve so many of the worlds problems. There should be Jews in Palestine, but there should not be a Jews-only state in Palestine, and especially not one with such a fascist government (but I suppose every ethnically exclusive country is bound to become a fascist state). So what if Palestine used to belong to the Jews, this was thousands of years ago. They are welcome to move there and live along-side the arabs, but no people is welcome to come to anyone elses land and set up an aparthied state. This is like if Whites from all around Europe and America moved to Georgia and Chechnya and kicked all the Georgians and Chechens out because our ancient ancestors lived in the region (hence the term 'caucasian'). It is absurd. Israel is absurd. However, if the Palestinian people vote to recognize Israel, I will as well, because it is their choice, not mine. I will however still advocate justice between Israel and Palestine if this happens.
arabs arent semetic. semetic means hebrew or jewish. not the people who live in the general isreali area.
Try Again, the word Semetic in its biblical sense reffers to the decendents of Shem, which include Jews, Arabs, Kurds, and other peoples origionally of the middle east. Semetic also reffers to the linguistic family which comprises Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Assyrian, and other languages of the area. Therefore, Arabs are semites. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/semite
Interesting that when the Roman Catholics renumbered the Ten Commandments the one they eliminated was the commandment against idolatry.
LoL perfect answer my man. Exactly what I was looking for, its so fake that even a word spoken in such regard demands a violent comeback. You missed the major aspect of my arguement though, the Jewish people and the Nazis were only the pawns. It didn't matter who won, when it was the Aryan vs the Jew. Either side was representing the same thing. This is hard for someone who can't think outside of the present cultural and social paradigm, but it makes sense. The evidence is in the national symbols. It was a created conflict, that was a result of the creative racist ideologies and secret societies floating around Germany in the 1800s. Then compared with the fall of the British Empire, and the Balfour Declarations inherit uselessness, they came up with the genius Idea to push the Aryan myth to the whites, and Zionism to the jew. They both grew during the early part of the 20th century, then met at the apex in the holocaust, being a direct cause and effect to land Israel where it is today. Lets say the axis did win the war? Japan and Germany would've crushed the Soviet Union, the Ottomons would've became a type of vassal state for the Nazis, giving them total control of the suez canal. They would've allowed Islam, to destroy Judaism. Then The Third Reich would've united with the pope, and this force would've then been enough to rally South America to their cause, and we have a united Faschist Empire. Causing USA's finaly surrender. But that didn't happen, because it was planned it was all fake, it was funded by the same Jewish, British, and Swiss Bankers. The Illuminati if you wana so boldly put it was behind it all.
im ignoring this dumbass thread and saying im a proud jew, i love all races i love germans too even though the hallocoast, fuck "the final solution" there is no "final solution" to anything!!! fuck rascism, spread love not hate assholes!