The era of skinny girls is over. Phat asses rule.

Thank you, Charise, for the compliment!

And BIB, baby, you rock! lol... Very good point you made, too. *cheers*

 

In the part of the country that I live in, there are plenty of Hispanics. Hispanic girls, at around 13-14, begin to wear tight blue jeans on their shapely rears (the original subject of this post), develop that characteristic twist in their hips, and at 15 go through a ceremony called the Quinceanera (literally '15 years') where they celebrate their entrance into adulthood-that's right, adulthood. This custom is many centuries old, and the concepts are embedded in the culture (BTW, I am neither Hispanic nor do I have a shapely butt!). Pregnancy is also quite common at this age-I've met a number of grandmothers in their early 30's as a result. These people seem to be quite happy-who am I to say they're not? I am neither condoning nor condemning these customs-I'm just stating them as facts. In modern American society, a recent historical phenomenon is for us to establish arbitrary ages (and change them frequently) that decide when a person becomes an adult, when they can drink, etc., and proceed to make their lives miserable if they violate these statutes. Until very recent times, no one ever dreamed that there would be criminal laws that would tell people when they could and couldn't do things like have sex/babies, drink, etc. Probably the reason that Lord Bunny feels this way about teenage girls is because he believes that's the way the 'law' expects him to see them. The law in this country has very succesfully taken away any sense of freedom or humanity that we might have once had. What a great big helluva shame.

 

So true.

 

Well, it's also based on the modern psychologal studies that try to convince people "age matters, age matters, AGE MATTERS!!"... But really, such "scientific findings" have been researched and "proven" as a part of the societal propaganda to basically cover up their own stupidity. It's far easier for society to brainwash its people into thinking things should be one way, than have them have a million different opinions that may oppose to the societal counterpart. Totalitarianistic? Yep, pretty much.

So it's really no surprise that they also link that with physical appearence as well. Less developed seems to automatically mean "child-like". So what if that's "child-like"?? We all have personal preferences, and are fully entitled to. People should be free to be attracted to those whom they are, but bashing those whom they aren't is totally uncalled for. Some people just don't get that, though. Sad, isn't it?

 

We could argue about semantics forever, but it doesn't get us anywhere and it's childish. I never said that younger people were stupid, but I don't think they are as 'cognitively mature'. I also think that the largest threat to youths is trying to overshadow others opinions with derisive and dismissive comments. It's what the hard core republicans, right wing evangelists, and muslim extremists do when they don't agree with something like gay marriage or a women's right to choice.

The fact is that when I was 15, I used to think that I was more mature for my age. I thought I was an adult. I think of that now and laugh. I went to college took a crap load of psych. and soc. classes for my major and found out that all pre-adults think that they are more mature for their age. You'll find out one day. You'll look back and laugh. I'm sure I'm going to laugh at myself now in another 15 years.

This is something I think they should teach you in High School. It's called "Development throughout the lifespan" or something like that. When I was in highschool (things may have changed) they only focused on your physical developmental changes. They never focused on the cognitive. As you age, the way you think about things changes. I'm sure not to long ago that you were basically a robot heeding the instructions of your caregivers. Now, you're probably in a stage of life where you think for yourself and actually question things deeply. The older you get, the more complex it gets until you pretty much prepare yourself psychologically for death.

I think it's an interesting topic, and I think you should read up on it. You really find out a lot about yourself. I find it handy for dealing with my child, because it helps me understand how he is perceiving the world around him.

I don't want to sound preachy, but I think if you read up on it more than you could understand where I was coming from without getting insulted. Mainly because I'm not trying to insult anyone.

 

Developmental psychology.... age matters and you're making assumptions not stating facts.

 

a thread with posts by people who appreciate maturity and a generous body. i'm likin this.

 

Sounds like you simply assume ALL teens mature more or less at the same speed. Sure, we can ALL look back when we were were 15 and laugh at ourselves, but we can also look back and smile at our sensible stances. What's with your constantly mentioning the specific age 15 years old, anyway? Oh, and by the way, since you seem to so firmly believe in "developmental psychology", I'll tell you this... When I was your age, I was still struggling with the concept of anti-ageism. Two years later, I've become much more convinced that the whole age issue really isn't what it's all cracked out to be. It's been blown out of proportion to the point where the damage is caused by such ignorant ageism disguised in te form of "modern studies" rather than the opposing attitude. I guess you're still too young to see that. Maybe you never will though, who knows...

But see, in reality, I actually don't really think that about you because of your age, mate. I'm just not an ageist like that. I don't believe that all children are immature, and I don't believe that all adults are mature. We are all people, and we all develop at different speeds. One thing you have failed to see is that fact that young people like BIB are actually coming up with more sensible stances toward life than people like you are. These young people see the world through the eyes uncorrupted by society. I think they are VERY intelligent, and some of them are much more mature and to the point than some adults who try to convince them that "older always means wiser" while speaking some over-specialized gibberish nobody can quite decipher. We, as adults, do NOT always have to be correcting young people's opinions. I've been proven wrong by teens many times, and I find it to be a very refreshing experience. I think it's great that they can educate me that way. It goes both ways. It's not just us aduts who educate them, but sometimes them young ones become our instructors in life as well.

 

Again... I'll repeat myself... don't get caught up in semantics. I think it's about time you came up with something new instead of attacking single words in my argument. Your problem is that you're making too many assumptions and not reading. You need to understand that this is a simple blog and not college thesis paper. I not going to cover every aspect to appease you. When did I call anyone immature. When did I say that everyone developed at the same pace. When did I correct anyones opinion. I don't even know where you're coming up with this. If you can't add or actually counter something that was actually stated, than you're probably just talking out your ass. Maybe you and BIB are at the same mentality. I feel sorry for you if you are. I chose a specific age to illustrate my point, not as a concrete fact. I seriously doubt that BIB has a condition where she has hyper cognitive development.
I mentioned 'developmental psychology' so that you could see that I'm not making this up or making assumptions like you are. I could actually reference most of what I've said with peer reviewed journals. I doubt you could do that. Which is weird, because I haven't been correcting anyones opinions, I've been defending mine. Hmmm... now I see why lots of young people can correct you. Nothing you say has any substance.

 

Sorry I have to go to bed. This was actually kind of fun. Aside from your petty insults. I think that's called trolling. I'm new to this, but I think I know that one.

 

Hell yeah momma!!!!

 

Uhh.. Forgive me for not being able to reply using intelligent words... I'm just too shocked to be exposed to such high level of ignorance that I'm actually kind of at a loss of words right now. Alright, well, first things first. You spend WAY too much time reading your psychology books. They contain knowledge, yes... ONLY TO A POINT. You can't base everything in life on those books. You seem to have only read those books, and have based your life around trying to follow what's in those books. You haven't LIVED your life BY thinking FOR YOURSELF, using your brain to actually see things the way they really are. Instead, all you seem to be doing is repeat those books. Books don't apply to the individual cases. Why? Because we are all different. You have no right to assume somebody like BIB's maturity to be lower than...yours, perhaps? I'm sorry, but I can tell you right now she's much better in touch with her innerself than you are. You seem to be caught up in trying to look so perfect in society, for society, and by society. Ouch, man.

By the way, you're also not reading what we're trying to say. If you think I'm not reading your posts properly, then it goes both ways. You are SO NOT understanding what I've said on my previous posts. What I'm saying is that you should NOT judge people just because they are young or old, because such mentality has a way of affecting people in some bad ways. It affects young people because it may make them feel so incapable. It affects them because they get the message that, to be mature, they have to physically be well-developed. It affects people, young or old. And this "it" is the mentality directly coming from your trusty textbooks.

Oh, and when did you NOT give others the impression that you were hardcore preaching and trying to "guide" others into the ever-so-great path of "developmental psychology" that you constantly speak of? When did I ever say I was stating YOUR idea of "facts"? I am just speaking as a person, as someone who LIVES his life in accordance to his beliefs rather than some books full of generalized information. I get to know people and reach a conclusion, rather than pre-judge them. Don't tell me you haven't pre-judged anyone here. You have, and it's all typed up and posted on this thread. BIB has seen it, DQ Veg has seen it, Charise has seen it, and I have seen it. You have been totally speaking on behave of your lovely psychology books, while insulting first the petite physique, then kids, categorizing all teens into one, "developmental stage" suggesting and/or seeming like you actually knew the answers to all their problems because you were once that age. Can you honestly say you can generalize like that??

And, uhh.... Did you call me a troll? For all I know, you have shown us more reasons for US to call YOU a troll, though, I'm not going to. I'm certainly not a troll around here. I was only challenging your stance regarding the petite physique that may resemble that of a child. You then went on to suggest teens were not as desirable, perhaps because of your own preference toward older women. You could've simply left out those ageist remarks, and none of this would've been taking place. ESPECIALLY on a thread concerning physical shapes.

How about YOU read MORE CAREFULLY before you attack others? And please apologize to BIB. You're comments about her was rather disturbing. I ask you nicely to give her your humble apology.

 

i like a nice rounded ass!

 

i personally LOVE curves, and i hate how 'skinny is in'. but hopefully that is changing. i've been trying to manifest curves, maybe it's finally working...

 

eh...i like my girls thin...not annorxic, just healthy looking.

 

I like girls with big breasts. Imagine that shit. If she is smart, she will know how to cook. As far as college. I went too. Bullshit posturing and molding for corporate slaves. I wont get too deep because I dont like getting into pissing matches online with guys. I dont get hard that way. Yes, I'm grumpy, I'm horny and hungry. Boobs, food. Making any sense yet?

 

You make perfect sense to me......:sunglasse

 

Sorry, I had a very sick infant to tend to this weekend. It was nothing that a couple hundred dollars in doctor bills and late night car rides couldn't fix up.


Alternative_Thinker.... Look, you're obviously repeating yourself into the ground. Grow up a little bit and actually try to have a mature conversation. This is how I talk to my infant. It's sad that I have to explain this to you too. How about quoting what I said that was so offensive. How about build an intelligent argument that I can read, counter, or agree with. You may not understand this, but course language tends to put people on guard. This is where I'm confused. You said that you're older than I was, but I'm really doubting it right now. It's time to grow up.

You're going to like this. I have a new word for you! "Abstract thinking." I say something to make a point. You then try to understand my meaning. Not everything I say is concrete. I can't help it if you get insulted by something I was trying to share with you. These are my ideas. I tried to explain that to you earlier and you couldn't understand it then either.

Instead of trying to share some ideas with me, you get borderline belligerent. My experience with dealing with people like you tells me that you're probably someone with little or no self confidence. You get on these posts and you let loose, because you and I know that in the real world you're a loser. Don't worry; I won't hold it against you. You're rough tone is why I'm calling you a troll. You need to understand that there is a respectful way to challenge and/or build upon someone’s ideas. Your insults lead me to believe that you're just trying to egg me on. I'm sorry if you're insulted by being called a troll, but I'm calling it like I see it.

So do me a favor, instead of making a general accusation like saying "you're an ageist" or "you called BIB immature". Show me where I've made these horrible claims. When you do, try to be mature about it for once. I would really like to see you as not a troll for once.

P.S. If you want an example of a mature argument. Look at the exchange of words between "Insanejester" and me. We obviously don't agree with one another on something petty, but we're not being childish. I guess in your case, it would be trollish.

 

First of all, I sincerely hope your baby will get better soon. Second, I think we should continue our debate via PM's. Let's not clutter up this thread any more. I will be PM'ing you with the reply to your last post.

Thanks.

 

i like skinny, better posistions, and usually better sex