The Dump Trump Thread

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by ZenKarma, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. Tishomingo

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    The galling thing is, we know the %^&*SOB is gonna pardon himself before he leaves office. Hope New York is up to the job!
     
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    Mark Hamill
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    Translation: The recent statement by Chris Krebs was highly accurate,
    in that there were no improprieties or fraud, confirmed by all credible
    2020 Election officials sworn under oath to be truthful. Therefore,
    he has been terminated for refusing to lie for me, your #LiarInChief.

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  5. Flagme15

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    I heard a law professor at Loyola Marymount University say that she doesn't think that trump can pardon himself because of a determination by the DoJ during Nixon's presidency(wish I could find it). Then there's this, Laurence Tribe explains how Trump probably can’t pardon himself (yahoo.com)
     
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  6. hotwater

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    It all has to do with the wording in the constitution which allows the President to grant a pardon .

    You can’t grant something to yourself.
     
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  7. Tishomingo

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    She can say what she wants, but when push comes to shove, it will be the Supreme Court that has the last word, and with its present lineup, I wouldn't be optimistic.
     
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    Two more right-wing nuts


     
  10. endlessdistanthills

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    Is their a guinness world record category for insanity?
     
  11. newo

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    WWJD? He'd vote for Trump! :confused::eek:
     
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  12. stormountainman

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    When Trump got in he fired Preet Bhrara who was the government lawyer in charge of financial crimes. Then he fired 44 prosecutors across the entire country. He wanted to be rid of any federal prosecutor who was able of going after him, his businesses, or his friends. I would rehire every one of them and find a spot for Sally Yates who warned about Michael Flynn. IMG_20201125_0001.jpg
     
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    Joyce Vance recently said a pardon is granted and the word means it is issued to another person. In the constitutional definition a president can not grant to himself. Also, a president can not issue or grant pardons where he has a vested interest, as in avoiding prosecution for himself. So, now comes the Friday Supreme Court decision on New York Churches and COVID-19 laws. This is a constitutional matter and if it goes to the 5 Republican Extremists, only God knows the outcome. If they do help Trump get away with all his crimes, then we'll get an America where rich white men are indeed above the law. I would also like to add that we as a nation must have congress write new laws to restructure the Supreme Court so judges who lied during confirmation and or showed partisanship in place of their responsibility on judicial review, could be removed. The life-time appointments are no longer good for us. All of Trump's appointments to federal courts must be reviewed. The American Bar association has told his appointees are unqualified. We need change now and Biden needs to get started with an aggressive AG to go after Trump crimes.
     
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  14. Flagme15

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    Storm, the senate has the power to impeach supreme court justices.
     
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    That I don't remember from my college days. Do they have the power to impeach and remove? Does the President have to sign the legislative decree from the Senate to make it effective?
     
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    Yes, they can impeach, and remove, and the president is not involved.​
     
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    All the more reason to send money to Jon Ossof and Rev Warnock.
     
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    Technically, it's only the House that can impeach, which is simply to bring the charge (analogous to indictment). The Senate serves as the jury (Chief Justice presiding) and needs a two-thirds vote to remove. Fat chance of getting that under present circumstances ! The one and only Supreme Court Justice ever to be impeached was Samuel Chase, a signatory of the Declaration of Independence, back in 1804. The grounds were various counts of alleged political bias. The Senate acquitted him of all of them.
     
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  19. Flagme15

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    Yes, you are correct.
     
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  20. stormountainman

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    Well Tishomingo, today we have 5 ultra right wing nuts on the Supreme Court who act as if they have been eating the Pink Slime which Trump legalized upon entering office in 2017 after the Pink Slime eaters voted to elect him. Our laws need to be adjusted and Supreme Court to be restructured. In Friday's opinion where Goresuck concurred, he went against a Massachusetts vaccination ruling which had given the states authority to regulate public health matters. That case was during the last Small Pox epidemic. Thanks to the Republicans, we are going backwards now.
     
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