The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The Democrats need to use the Commerce Clause of the Constitution to regulate the business activities which Republicans love so much and wish to have run free and rough shod on the common people. The Democrats should also use the 9th Amendment --which was the original foundation of Roe v. Wade-- to increase the power of common people over the power of states, since Republicans are so willing to increase the power of the states. State powers were what the Confederate States and the KKK called for over the years.
     
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  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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  3. Eric!

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    This makes it legit? Not an official news broadcast over the air, but some bullshit video recorded at home in her backyard and posted on YouTube? Nonsense…..
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    They only want states rights for issues that they want. If they don't agree then the feds must step in. Like gun rights for instance. States can't regulate guns as they see fit.
     
  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Historically!
     
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  6. egger

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  7. egger

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    See the 1960 Electoral College certificates that the false Trump electors say justify their gambit

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    "Why Hawaii 1960 isn’t the same as Trump 2020

    Although the three Democratic electors in Hawaii took the same action — signing false certificates — it does not appear they ever faced similar scrutiny, in part because of what happened next. Namely, that Hawaii’s recount ultimately did reverse the state’s election outcome.

    Kennedy prevailed by an eyelash when the recount concluded on Dec. 28, 1960. A newly sworn-in governor certified the Kennedy victory and transmitted a new slate of Electoral College certificates — signed by the same three Democrats who falsely claimed to have won two weeks earlier.

    When Nixon, like Mike Pence, presided over the Electoral College counting session on Jan. 6, 1961, he acknowledged receiving all three sets of certificates: the GOP slate, the uncertified Democratic slate and the certified Democratic slate.

    He then agreed that the newest one — the Democrats certified by Gov. William Quinn — should be counted, even though they were certified weeks after the required meeting of the Electoral College. Nixon added a caveat of his own: His decision should not be seen as a precedent for the future.

    That newest slate “properly and legally portrays the facts with respect to the electors chosen by the people of Hawaii,” Nixon said.

    One crucial feature of the 1960 episode is that a state court weighed in on Jan. 4, 1961, two days before Nixon oversaw the electoral vote count.

    In that case, Judge Ronald Jamieson agreed that the certified Kennedy electors were legitimate. But, more significantly, Jamieson said it was important that those electors met and gathered on Dec. 19, 1960, as prescribed by the Electoral Count Act.

    Rather than suggest the Democratic electors committed fraud, the judge pointed to their meeting as a key step that preserved their ability to be counted after the recount showed Kennedy had actually won the state. Jamieson also reportedly threw out an effort by the GOP electors to scrap the entire election because of fraud allegations.

    The ruling wasn’t appealed and holds no binding weight, but it’s the only legal precedent for dueling Electoral College slates since the Electoral Count Act passed in 1887."
     
  8. egger

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    1960 United States presidential election in Hawaii - Wikipedia

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    "The election, and the subsequent recount, are notable for giving rise to the first occurrence of "dueling" electoral slates in American history since the 1887 enactment of the Electoral Count Act.[3] During the 2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida, Congresswoman Patsy Mink suggested that the election could serve as a potential precedent to extend Vice President Al Gore's challenge to the official results beyond the Electoral Count Act's "safe harbor" deadline, though this was ultimately not acted upon.[4] During the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election, the election was cited as a potential precedent by supporters of President Donald Trump.[5][6]"
     
  9. Flagme15

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    I am not sure packing the court is a wise move. it's a slippery slope. I would rather see term limits for SC judges. Five years max.
     
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  10. egger

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    Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

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    "Post-election firings

    After vote counts showed a Biden victory, Trump engaged in what has been called a "post-election purge", firing or forcing out at least a dozen officials and replacing them with loyalists.[184] Secretary of Defense Mark Esper was fired by tweet on November 9.[185][186] Undersecretary for Defense Joseph D. Kernan and Acting Undersecretary for Policy James H. Anderson resigned in protest or were forced out.[184] The White House sought to learn the names of political appointees who had applauded Anderson upon his departure, so they could be fired.[187] The DOD chief of staff, Jen Stewart, was replaced by a former staffer to Representative Devin Nunes.[184] On November 30, Christopher P. Maier, the head of the Pentagon's Defeat ISIS Task Force, was ousted and the task force was disbanded; a White House official told him that the United States had won the war against the Islamic State, so the task force was no longer needed.[188]

    Trump's allegations of election fraud in battleground states were refuted by judges, state election officials, and his own administration's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA).[86] After CISA director Chris Krebs contradicted Trump's voting-fraud allegations, Trump fired him on November 17.[189][190] Three other Department of Homeland Security officials – Matthew Travis, CISA's deputy director. Bryan Ware, CISA's assistant director for cybersecurity, and Valerie Boyd, the DHS's assistant secretary of international affairs – were also forced out.[184]

    Bonnie Glick, the deputy administrator of the United States Agency for International Development, was abruptly fired on November 6; she had prepared a transition manual for the next administration. She was due to become acting administrator of the department on November 7. Firing her left the position of acting administrator vacant, so that Trump loyalist John Barsa could become acting deputy administrator.[191][192]"
     
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  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The serious matter today is this: If Alito, Thomas, and the other conservative morons think a fetus has personhood under their constitutional read, then women can be charged with murder when they have a miscarriage. In places like Texas or Arkansas it would be very dangerous for any liberal Democrat woman to go to the doctor office about such a health issue. The right-wing nut job Christian receptionist might report her to the Deacon, who would then call Billy Bob the deputy.
     
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  12. Flagme15

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    Interesting because I've read that Giuliani, and trump did not like each other. At least in the early years.
     
  13. egger

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    In Texas, Where Abortion Rights Began, GOP Builds New Barriers

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    "Because Roe’s legal roots were planted in a Dallas courtroom, Texas could be described as the starting point for a half-century of legalized abortions in America. But in the decades since the decision, Republicans have steadily toppled Democrats to take over the state’s power structure.

    In recent years, Texas has produced some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the country, culminating in a measure that went into effect in September. It bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy and deputizes private citizens to sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion by, for example, paying for someone else to have the procedure.

    Texas is one of 13 states with a so-called trigger law that would quickly outlaw abortion if Roe falls. But energized Texas Republicans are determined to go even further, readying bills for next year’s legislative session that aim to block Texans from traveling to states where abortion remains legal."
     
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  14. egger

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    Chief Justice Roberts wanted to go slow curbing Roe v. Wade. His colleagues were in a hurry.

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    "The biggest factor that changed since those years is the court's composition: President Donald Trump's nomination of Associate Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett gave conservatives a 6-3 edge for the first time in decades. Roberts, suddenly, was no longer a swing vote – and his conservative colleagues no longer needed him to move the court and the law to the right.

    On Friday, the chief justice didn't join the majority to overturn Roe. Instead, he articulated what some saw as the centrist's position: He wanted to uphold the Mississippi ban on most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy at issue in the case but not overrule one of the Supreme Court's best recognized precedents.

    No other justice joined his opinion."


    "The abortion decision appeared to be the latest indication the court's ascendant conservatives – led by Associate Justice Clarence Thomas – are beginning to flex their muscle. The decisions may represent a shift away from Roberts' incrementalism to a much faster rightward turn."
     
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  15. scratcho

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    ----and George H W. Bush named Clarence Thomas to the bench, George W Bush named that neanderthal Samuel Alito and Herr Trump finished it off with the latest right wing / republican installment. You republicans finally got your way---your plan-- so now we can watch this country REALLY go to hell.:mad:
     
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  16. scratcho

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    :"Curiously, Judge Thomas doesn't seem to have an interest in the miscegenation laws that were in effect back in the day, but is very interested in same sex marriage, birth control, etc. Huh. Interesting.
     
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  17. MeAgain

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    I don't think murder, but certainly manslaughter for a miscarriage.
    Yes, just like the Taliban, report to the Mullah.

    And fetuses now should be counted ion the census otherwise they become stateless personages.
     
  18. Tyrsonswood

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    If he could get an "it's okay for me but not anybody else" clause in there he would do that
     
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  20. egger

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    image:

    Abortion illegal, or soon to be, in 16 state post-Roe
    Megan Messerly
    Politico

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