The Donald Trump Score Card

It's Mueller Time! He just filed 13 indictments against Russian persons who fudged with the election...to help Humpty Trumpzy!

 

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I like what you say; however, I disagree with the main thrust of your contention. There is history prior to 1620. There is a place in New England which demonstrates the Phoenicians of Lebanon were the first Caucasians here. There are several places in eastern Canada and the USA which have evidence of Vikings and Templar Knights. In 1498 an Arab landed with Cabeza Del Vaca at Galveston Island, in Texas. On the west coast, the local Indians and Spanish cannot explain Arabic names like Malibu and Huaneme. I think America is an Arab and Muslim country, and my theory is validated by the fact we just had a Muslim President...Sean Hannity, Bill Cunningham, Glen Beck, and Alex Jones are Republicans who told me that Barak Hussain Obama is a Muslim. If we have a Muslim in the White House, we are a Muslim Nation. Don't you agree?

 

It depends on what you mean by "founded and settled on the basic ideologies of the Christian faith." The Mayflower Compact, which you site ad nauseum ,was of course put together by Christians, the core of which were Pilgrims, religious dissenters, who were admittedly devout. But they were only one group of settlers in the early days of this country. The Founding Fathers who put together the U.S. Constitution 167 years later were a different breed, many of them Deists.
5 Founding Fathers Whose Skepticism About Christianity Would Make Them Unelectable Today
See also, David L. Holmes, The Faith of the Founding Fathers (2006) ; Alf J. Mapp, Jr., The Faiths of Our Fathers: What America’s Fathers Really Believed (2003) ; Kerry S. Walters, Rational Infidels: The American Deists (1992).
The Founders respected Christianity, but were careful to make clear that there would be no religious tests for office and no establishment of religion. It says "In God We Trust" on our money (not in our Constitution) and was adopted as our nation's motto (along with "under God" in our pledge of allegiance) in the Eisenhower Administration, when our politicians were currying favor with the Almighty in our struggle against "Godless Communism." I wouldn't want Christians to be told to sit in a corner, since I am one, but I think we should resist revision of our history by those who want us to think Jesus was a Republican and non-Christians are second-class citizens. As our second president, John Adams, who was present at the signing of the Constitution put it: “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” You. sir, are the revisionist!

 

Wonder what Trumpers have to say about this? When you combine this with the friendly attitude of Trump to Russia our traditional enemy it's only a matter of time before more comes out distinctly linking his administration to this. Like he's worked far too hard to be friendly and dismiss this.

Read: Mueller’s indictment of Russians for interfering with US elections

 

First paragraph. None of these other instances were founding fathers that documented the establishment the founding principles on how this country was to be established and governed. Prior to ALL of them were Indians. Doesn't mean they had any say by which this country was organized after the Anglo Saxons settled and established their new nation here.

Second part. "I think America is an Arab and Muslim country, and my theory is validated by the fact we just had a Muslim President...Sean Hannity, Bill Cunningham, Glen Beck, and Alex Jones are Republicans who told me that Barak Hussain Obama is a Muslim. If we have a Muslim in the White House, we are a Muslim Nation. Don't you agree?"

Show me where Obama is a Muslim? His father certainly was. If you actually believe what Hannity and Beck and all of his demonizers believe then you are part of the discord in America.

In his own words:




While there Muslims that hold office in America, Obama wouldn't be one of them.

So in a district of a state where there is a majority Muslim population, its stands to reason that they vote accordingly to be represented by such. That's part of the democratic process. My business partner is a Muslim American. He voted for Trump in 2016 and he loves him more now than he did then. He has a list of Muslims that he knows are here illegally and he is the first person to try and help track them down. He LOVES that they are being sent home. He sees it as they are cheating. He took the steps to be a citizen, so should they. Otherwise he gets lumped into their group simply because he is Muslim. I don't think America is ready for a Muslim president yet. Neither demographically, nor philosophically. Most Americans can't define a Muslim, let alone understand that some like us and some don't. Its far easier to just mange them with teaching them hate.

 

Trump is forced to eat his words again.


There’s always an old Trump tweet: Russian indictment edition
“The Russia hoax continues,” Trump grumped when Facebook turned over ads to investigators. ... About that.
by Dara Linddara
Feb 16, 2018, 3:00pm EST

excerpt:

"On September 15, 2017, reports broke that Facebook had turned over ads bought by Russian entities during the 2016 campaign to special counsel Robert Mueller. On September 21, after congressional investigators asked Facebook for the ads, Facebook sent them to Congress too. And on the early morning of September 22, Trump decried the move, calling it part of the “Russia hoax” — Trump shorthand for the “Russia-collusion narrative (which) is a hoax.”

In fact, the indictment makes it damn clear that the “ads on Facebook” Trump was referring to in September were not part of some “deep state” hoax to make it look like Russia meddled in the election. They were, in fact, part of a hoax perpetrated by Russia to meddle in the election."

 

How this became Jesus is a Republican to you is not in any way your problem I need to take on. Nowhere did I imply that the government had to be Christian. In fact it sort of tries to keep the two seperate However that doesn't mean that the people in government and those that elect them aren't of the Christian faith. Take away the Christian signatory customs and you will piss off pretty much that religion. So then they stand behind a Trump more strongly because he represents a stronger push back for them. Instead of skipping them over to say in the PC area, he embraces them. The silenced Christians have had enough. Now you get to see our domestic jihad take place right here. All very avoidable. Don't get insulted and start lawsuits over having to say GOD. Don't get insulted by a cross on a church lawn, or on public property. It could all just as easily get ignored and you could go in peace. But no the liberals have to try and make examples of the idea that Muslims, Jews, Wiccans etc are all equal to the Christians. Take that mother fucking Christians!

Now you get to deal with Donald Trump. An idiot. An idiot with a HUGE backing of people that have been pissed off for awhile and can now have a voice. You can try and make it about anything you like. But I doubt you will ever make it about you being part of the problem.

 

I read it.

You mean this part?
"Importantly, the indictment does not allege that the outcome of the election was changed, and it does not allege that any Americans or anyone on the Trump campaign was aware of or involved in this Russian effort. It does allege that some of the defendants posed as US persons and “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.”

Am I missing something in the way that reads?

 

It's hard to tell whether you're presenting your own views or stating what the so-called Christians who support Trump are thinking and doing. First of all, I'm a Christian, but obviously not a Trump or fox supporter. I think Trump is the very antithesis of Christian values; he and Fox, in my opinion, are hypocrites who cynically exploit and pervert the religion for political purposes. They've gone over to the worship of Mammon and blaspheme by calling it Christianity. I regard Trump's supporters among Evangelical spokespersons as either dupes or Pharisees in Christian clothing who bring scandal to the faith by climbing into bed with Caesar. When you speak of "our" domestic jihad" you seem to include yourself with them.

Our constitution (Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments) make clear that "Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, etc. are all equal to the Christians." The Bible makes clear that all humans are created in the image of God, and that we must love them as ourselves for the love of God. If you and your co-religiounists don't like that, you should move to another country and get a new religion--maybe the Church of the Latter Day Pharisees.

 

Well so far that isn't what the investigation has revealed. And based on your logic to support the fact that Hillary was investigated and they I think as you put it Got nothing on her, then Trump is as golden as she is.

I'm sure there will be some special liberal snowflake alternative logic that will apply in this case, but not in the Clinto case. But if you trust investigations, as you so eloquently have before, then so far there is NOTHING that indicts Trump towards colluding with the Russians as all the Dems claimed there would be.

Now as to your view on his apparent sympathy towards the Russians. Maybe, just maybe he is waiting to see what the investigation shows what they did do and then maybe he will act. I don't know. But what I do know is that WE don't know what they do.

Its not over yet, however if this indictment is anything close to to where its going to finish, Trump won't be convicted of anything. Talk about empowering him!!! Once he gets this weight from around his neck the liberals haven't even seen the worst yet.

I see the news cycles seem to already be shifting AWAY from the ironclad notion that Truimp colluded. Now they are working on women and payouts and lets keep piling on racism and bigotry. Its working brilliantly for them do far.

He will pay them back accordingly. I'd not be shocked to see the FBI go down hard from this (gee just like he said in the beginning), or Clinton and the Clinton Foundation get fornicated by him. Pelosi will be in the Top 5 on the hit list. Its fine to have an investigation when its warranted. But if you come up dry, it won't go unpunished. If you thought he was hard on the Dems before, this will seem like 6th grade social studies in 2 years.

I so far have not heard that Russia has broken laws by legally purchasing ads to place propaganda out there. Lord knows if that was illegal, you'd be arresting a LOT of politicians. Influencing an election by taking advantage of stupid people has been going on for quite awhile now. I'd see Zuckerberg go down before I see a Russian go down.

 

1 out 4 Americans voted for him and many of them no longer support him. So at best "huge backing" is around 25% of Americans . He does have supporters who are very passionate. I have even seen Trump 2020 shirts. And for most of these supporters they do feel like victims so there is a certain vindictive joy no matter how poorly he does. Because he's not that bad and he makes the other guy angry. The guy who oppressed me. But that is all he has now and the walls are crumbling. It's still unlikely he will be impeached but he he has little chance or reelection of any serious policy change on the issues that are important to him.

 

Our as in American domestic. Even if I'm not Christian the Jihad will affect me. I agree with you on FOX etc. Lets not leave out CNN for the opposing perversions of info.

Now then to the 5th and 14th.

I can paste them here and have you tell me where they are even close to disscsuuing religious freedoms let alone specific ones. Or I can just request that you show me where you interpret that in either of these.

 

If you think he isn't going to make the Dems pay for this you're being terribly naive. The Dems are ripe with things that he can go after. For one the Clinton funded dossier and subsequent leaking of fake news to the fake news outlets that pretty much was the basis that started the investigation. Then there will be the missing emails that the he promised to lock her up over. That is still very possible. Lets not forget Uraniumgate where Clinton brokered a deal to sell Uranium to the Russians. And the entire Clinton foundation and who it takes its contributions from and how that money is spent. That will tie them up for a few years. And the money the RNC and the Kochs will spend to support the fight will be almost endless.
Yeah I understand pretty clear how the system works. The Dems picked a fight they were certain they could win....again.....and it seems as though they may have lost.....AGAIN.

Again show me where the Russians have broken any laws. At this point all I think they have shown is that the Russians ran well coordinated legally purchased ads that streamed propaganda against Clinton and FOR Trump. To that extent they are guilty of influencing a voter. So what, thats what getting voted is all about. And now that the Clinton's funded the dossier and fabricated the so called collusion, they are going to be much easier to indict than a foreign government ever will be.

 

I think your argument is just a Strawman suffering from a bad case of Red Herring. This is a Muslim country and Louis Farakhan could tell you that! Dr David Duck went toiran over this issue. I am sure he would agree with Louis F.

 

They both state that "No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" The Supreme Court early on interpreted "lberty" to include the First Amendment establishment clause and free exercise clause. The Supreme Court has also interpreted the amendment to include the right of all persons to equal protection of the laws (Bolling v. Sharpe,347 U.S. 497 (1954). The first amendment establishment and due process clauses are directly applicable to the federal government. The Fourteenth Amendment, applicable to the states, likewise, provides that States cannot deprive persons of life, liberty or property without due process of law", language which early on was interpreted to include protection of first amendment religious liberty. The Fourteenth Amendment also has an "equal protection clause" explicitly prohibiting states from discriminating against any person. The term "person" includes "Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, etc. Not a word in the constitution provides, explicitly or implicitly, for any special status for Christians or the Christian religion. So what is your question?