The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Entire phone call of Trump and Georgia officials.


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  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    That's not how we spell definitely in America. You are very certainly not American.
     
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  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    We have 16 more days of Trump.

    Biden takes office on Jan. 20.
     
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    And neither does that fucking moron, Gym Jordan.
     
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  7. egger

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    An Insurgency From Inside the Oval Office

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    "His hourlong telephone call over the weekend with Georgia’s chief election official, Brad Raffensperger, pressuring him to “find” enough votes to overturn President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in that state only brought into stark relief what Mr. Trump has been doing for weeks. He has called the Republican governors of Georgia and Arizona to get them to intervene. He has summoned Michigan’s Republican legislature leaders to the White House to pressure them to change their state’s results. He called the Republican speaker of the Pennsylvania House twice to do the same.

    He and his staff have floated the idea of delaying Mr. Biden’s inauguration, which is set in stone by the Constitution, and he met with a former adviser urging him to declare martial law. His erratic behavior has so alarmed the military that he might try to use force to stay in the White House that every living former defense secretary — including two he appointed himself — issued a warning against the armed forces becoming involved."
     
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    An Insurgency From Inside the Oval Office

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    "But Mr. Trump’s efforts ring familiar to many who have studied authoritarian regimes in countries around the world, like those run by President Vladimir V. Putin in Russia and Prime Minister Viktor Orban in Hungary.

    “Trump’s attempt to overturn the election, and his pressure tactics to that end with Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, are an example of how authoritarianism works in the 21st century,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present.” “Today’s leaders come in through elections and then manipulate elections to stay in office — until they get enough power to force the hand of legislative bodies to keep them there indefinitely, as Putin and Orban have done.”"
     
  9. egger

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    Trump contended that he won Georgia by as much as 500,000 votes.

    Using that claim, he then made it sound like it should be easy to give him 11,780 extra votes to win the election.

    He wants all of that to happen before the Tuesday runoff election in Georgia because he fears both Republican U.S. Senate candidates will lose.
     
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  10. egger

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    Trump damaged the confidence in elections in Georgia because of all his unsubstantiated allegations about election fraud.

    He's now blaming Raffensperger for that problem and telling him to rectify it by overthrowing the presidential election result in Georgia so that people can once again have confidence in the voting system for the Georgia runoff election on Tuesday.
     
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    If one or both run off candidates on the left lose---nothing will get done for the next four years. HOWEVER --and it's a big HOWEVER---maybe Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski or some other republicans will finally get some honor and vote with democrats against McConnell. Wouldn't count on that----but you never know.
     
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  12. hotwater

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    That actually trump's best defense if he faces state charges, that he's delusional and really believes he won the state of Georgia
    despite multiple recounts and a hand recount which matched perfectly with the number of ballots cast.
     
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  14. hotwater

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    His best defense, is the insanity defense...lol..
     
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  15. egger

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    About 5 million people in Georgia voted in the 2020 general election.

    Estimating 3 million people voting in the runoff election would be 60% of the number who voted in the general election. 3 million is not an unreasonable number.

    1.6 million who have already voted (as of December 22) is 50% of 3.2 million.

    It's late in the game for Trump to be trying to undo his own two months worth of damage to election confidence by compelling Raffensperger to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia (which isn't going to happen). Even more so considering half of the votes may have already been cast in the runoff election.
     
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    I want the Republicans to give me 11780 bottles of Tequila.
     
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    Trump is extremely frustrated with the success of Stacie Abrams.

    He's also kicking himself in the rear end a hundred times for promoting Kemp who beat Abrams in the 2018 governor race, now that Kemp won't overthrow the legitimate Georgia presidential election result for him.
     
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    During the phone call to Raffenspeger, Trump said, "I was a schmuck."
     
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    As much as I would like to see us take both seats, I will be happy with taking one seat. I agree with you that there are at least two or three republican senators that might see the light.
     
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    Trump mentioned Ruby Freeman a number of times during the phone call.


    In call to Georgia’s secretary of state, Trump pushed QAnon and 4chan-created conspiracy theories


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    “She's known all over the internet, Brad. She's known all over,” Trump said.

    Trump came back to Freeman 18 times on the one-hour call, referring to her as a “professional vote scammer” and a “hustler.”

    “You know, the internet?” Trump asked at one point. “You know what was trending on the internet? 'Where’s Ruby?' Because they thought she’d be in jail. 'Where’s Ruby?' It’s crazy. It’s crazy," Trump said.

    Despite Trump’s familiarity, the #WheresRuby hashtag was hardly trending on Twitter, racking up just a few hundred tweets and retweets in December, mostly from QAnon and ultra-conservative activist accounts, according to an NBC News analysis.

    In reality, Freeman runs a mall kiosk and a small online business that sells handbags and other women’s accessories. She could not be reached for comment."
     
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