The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Flagme15

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  2. scratcho

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    The more I read about the what the new supreme court has in mind and that the republicans will cheat, lie and do whatever benefits themselves----I'm getting the feeling--a damn scary feeling--that trump is going to be back in office. If they can figure out a way to keep him in--already trying and succeeding in some cases of NOT counting ballots after election day--even though post marked BEFORE election day--stick a fork in any semblance of democracy left--we're done! And done for! And his gleeful, ignorant cult members will fall right in lockstep towards a Russian type government.
     
  3. egger

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    In the video Scaramucci mentioned how quiet Trump has been about Obama being on the campaign trail in battleground states such as FL and PA and making critical remarks about him. Trump and Obama did rallies in PA on the same day.

    Trump has been relentless in making false claims about Obama's past (empty cupboards and other empty remarks by Trump) but won't confront him now when he has the opportunity. Trump is showing himself to be a paper bag bully.
     
  4. egger

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    Trump has become so far removed from reality that it is next to impossible to have a rationale exchange with him or his followers.

    He couldn't withstand being asked about these issues and walked out of the 60 Minutes interview.



    Trump claims falsely COVID-19 cases down: US election live news

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    "Trump claims COVID-19 cases are going down in US as data shows cases rising

    President Donald Trump campaigned in Wisconsin, where COVID-19 cases are rising fast, and claimed before a large crowd of several thousand supporters that the coronavirus is going away.

    “We’re turning the corner. We’re turning the corner, We’re rounding like this racetrack, this is perfect, we’re rounding the curve. We will vanquish the virus,” Trump said.

    “It’s down to very low numbers,” Trump claimed.

    New cases are increasing in Wisconsin at a rate of 50 percent in the past two weeks. Nationwide, new cases are up 40 percent and have reached daily levels not seen since the last peak in July, according to data published by The New York Times."
     
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  5. unfocusedanakin

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    He will say the election was rigged and there is voter fraud. The courts and local Republicans will then agree with him. A conservative state will say they were victims of fraud and don't feel comfortable trusting the numbers of liberal states. The Democrats tried here and failed because we all voted and had trustworthy local polling people. Democratic states had corrupt leadership and the silent majority was cheated.

    It's interesting to me. Republicans are doing all the things they claimed Obama would do. In 2012 he was going to cancel the election and stack the courts so there could be no election. Then he was going to cancel 2016. Some of the more extreme even claimed the deep state lead by Obama would put a hit on Trump. Republicans who challenged him in the democratic process would be locked up. The local police as part of the corrupt goverment were going to come from the entire Republican party even if they just protested. So you better own guns

    Now a dictator who imprisons or kills his political rival seems the patriotic pick for Republicans. He's already said he "deserves" a third term. It's of course "a joke" to his voters but not really. The real joke is him saying what they are all thinking and seeing how upset it gets liberals. They feel empowered. Since the 1960's they have been pissed off at the progress of society. Year by year the democratic processes make things more liberal. Public views on taxes, sex, drugs, even language on TV, etc. It all leaves Republican thinking behind. They can't fairly vote their way of life into office anymore. Republicans rarely have anything good to say about their presidents. Even Regan was not popular in his time. They can never do enough to stop the Democrats. In the typical conservative way they only remember the good parts a few decades later. Trump is good now because he gives them the option to not vote anymore. The party has gone farther right as the years go by. It's not really about limited goverment anymore it's nationalist pride for the country.
     
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  6. egger

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    The Trump administration likes to play on the early part of a rising curve of new cases when a surge is occurring before the morbidity and deaths are registered which can happen weeks later. Trump prefers to make it seem like an increase in cases is innocuous and due simply to increased testing.

    Trump was wrong during the summer surge when using this ploy and he's wrong again during the autumn surge. Both situations have shown increases in the hospitalizations, morbidity, and mortality that lag an early rise in cases.



    Fact check: Trump continues to falsely claim that spike in coronavirus cases is due to heightened testing - CNNPolitics

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    "Since the week ending September 26 ... weekly hospitalization rates have increased for all age groups combined, driven primarily by an increase in rates among adults aged 50 years and older," the CDC said in its report for the week ending October 17.

    You can already see the impact of the hospitalization spike in communities around the country.

    Amid a surge in El Paso, the government of Texas has converted a convention center into a makeshift hospital to free up space in regular hospitals. With the Wisconsin health system "being overwhelmed," according to Gov. Tony Evers, the state has opened a field hospital at the park where its state fair is held. Some Utah hospitals have had to open overflow intensive care units because the permanent units have been filled.

    "Our hospitals are being overwhelmed and the stress they are experiencing is unsustainable," Gov. Gary Herbert tweeted on Thursday.
     
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    Fact check: Trump continues to falsely claim that spike in coronavirus cases is due to heightened testing - CNNPolitics

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    "The spike in US coronavirus cases is not being caused by an increase in testing. The number of confirmed new cases is increasing at a faster rate than the number of new tests. And the number of hospitalizations and deaths is also rising, which shows that, contrary to Trump's repeated claims, the increase in the case numbers isn't merely being caused by tests capturing mild cases. Taken together, the numbers tell a consistent story: the situation in the US is genuinely getting worse."

    "Not only are cases and infections increasing, but hospitalizations -- which follow case increases by several weeks -- and deaths -- which follow hospitalization increases by a week or two -- are also increasing. What's more, the proportion of tests that are positive has increased, and this correlates with increased actual spread of infection." Frieden added: "The most reliable information is positivity, and this increased in all regions of the country."

    The national positivity rate as of Saturday was 6.1%, per Johns Hopkins University data, up from 4.6% a month prior.

    If the increase in reported cases "were due to a very high level of testing, we would expect to see the percentage of tests that are positive be very low, certainly less than 3%. However that is not what we are seeing," said Aubree Gordon, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Michigan."
     
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    Lolz, Scaramucci? Seriously, he still sulking is he?

    Remind us all what he said about Obama continually raping Wall Street
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Let's see, nope, deaths per day in the US has been under 1000 since August 24th, not rising

    Quite the opposite of rising
     
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    That one time in 2018 you mean
     
  12. egger

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    That's a difficult development for Trump and his enthusiast to swallow considering that Putin is Trump's buddy, how Trump and his following have dismissed the usefulness of face coverings, and how they have dismissed the reality of the coronavirus surge in the U.S. and elsewhere in the world.
     
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    Trump and his following will try to concoct a way to dismiss it.
     
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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    That was a weird post.

    First you acknowledge government health advice was rubbish, then say they technically they worked for Trump, then claim there are 'neutral' experts in same government whose rubbish advice Trump should have listened to


    Things Trump was actually more right about than the experts:

    -The China Travel ban, in effect 31st January, Fauci on 26th January said there's no reason to panic, Pelosi was hugging strangers in Chinatown

    - It didn't disappear in the warmer weather, but the mortality rate certainly did plummet, which is far more correct than Fauci saying nothing, too scared to commit to any comment on seasonal variations

    - If we do get the Pfizer vaccine by the end of the year, Trump's prediction on that will be more accurate than Fauci's, who in May this year said not until April 2021. China has been using a vaccine since July

    Trump is Trump, but in comparison all medical "experts' on a government payroll the world over have been totally useless, with shitty advice; which is why we get to October 23rd and almost 1/2 million infections in just one day, even after all the lockdowns and ten months of wear masks but don't bother with eye protection nonsense
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    How many of those 70,000 new cases a day had been wearing masks?



    Anyone? Anyone?
     
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    Why don't you tell us... I'm sure you know the exact number.
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    New York has still been averaging 1500 new cases a day for the past month by the way
     
  18. Tyrsonswood

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    Exactly how many were wearing masks?

    asking for a friend.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And on October 24th Illinois broke its own record for number of new cases in one day (6161)

    You won't read that on CNN though
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    All of them, they are good little democrats in a blue state that do what they are told
     

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