The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Another video by some idiot.

    The premise seems to be that if we oppose those who push a racial agenda...we are the racists.

    So clever.
     
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  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    As I say US politics has gone insane – the president of the United States of American can send out tweets explicitly attacking cable hosts and newspapers but can’t bring himself to say anything against Nazis and KKK members?
     
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Not to mention comparing his own intelligence network to Nazis.




     
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  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    What president are you talking about?

    A number of administrations and politicians have encouraged violence against others the ones that come to mind are of course those demonising black people but there was also the racist yellow peril and the red scare’s which were against lefties, and of course the use of National Guardsmen against striking workers.

    So it’s mainly been the more about the right leaning against minorities and lefties.
     
  5. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    OK – Godwin’s law again, but also a history lesson.

    1920-30’s Weimar Republic street battles between left and right became more heated with Nazis paramilitary groups dressed in uniforms becoming more involved as time went on.

    The Nazis would go to places where they knew they would get a reaction.

    For example in 1927 they provocatively had a meeting in the predominantly left wing area of Berlin which inevitably turned into a violent brawl. "Beer glasses, chairs and tables flew through the hall, and severely injured people were left lying covered with blood on the floor” this was seen as a great success by Goebbels as it got the Nazis publicity and new recruits.

    By June 1932, street battles were very common and violent with 400 taking place resulting in 82 deaths. 'This destabilization was crucial to Hitler's rise to power, in part because it convinced many Germans that once Hitler became chancellor, the endemic street violence would end.'
     
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  6. egger

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    Trump is confused as to who are the real Nazis.

    He was confused about Sweden in a similar fashion. He heard a few scraps of words about Sweden on Fox News the day before his speech and thought that a recent attack by Muslims terrorists had occurred in Sweden..

    There were attacks in Sweden in the weeks leading up to Trump's erroneous statement including one on an immigrant asylum center but they were attacks on immigrants perpetrated by a group believed to have neo-Nazi ties. Trump should have denounced the attacks on the asylums instead of hearing some scraps of words on Fox and impulsively jumping to conclusions.


    Sweden says three arrested over attacks on asylum centers
    February 2, 2017 / 1:06 PM / 6 months ago

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sweden-attacks-idUSKBN15H2D4
     
  7. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    My fear is that this incident is a recruiting poster for the far right, there are people out there that see the ‘establishment’ and the ‘mainstream media’ outrage and think that is great and want more of it.
     
  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    He was the last one who egged on violence against police, and fanned the flames of race wars.

    I'll never forget his speech he made after the Darren Wilson ruling when he said the upcoming Fergison riots will "make for great TV viewing"
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Provoke violence and then blame the violence on those you provoke.

    And accuse the ones provoked of doing the provoking.

    My near home time boy Jeffery Lord (who was just fired by CNN) is good at that.
    How does Trump view protesters, (who have a Constitutional right to protest BTW)?
     
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  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Who are you talking about?
     
  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Barry Obama
     
  12. Balbus

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    What?
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    BINGO!
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    It was a nice tune or melody, though......I could live without the words to it, though.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I had thought that 6-eyed shaman was seriously interested in intelligent conversation, he seems to be an alright guy, but I'm beginning to have my doubts.

    Barry was Barrack Obama's nickname in his youth.
    I believe 6-eye is using it here in a derogatory manner.

    He is accusing Obama of ignoring violence to a larger degree than Donald Trump:

    Kinda funny in a way.
     
  16. egger

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  17. egger

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    Trump made the brief statements in the Diplomatic Reception Room, The incident that happened over the weekend deserves a formal press conference.

    In a related matter, Kenneth Frazier resigned.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-kkk-neo-nazis-as-justice-department-launches-civil-rights-probe-into-charlottesville-death/#comments

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    "On Monday, Kenneth C. Frazier, CEO of Merck, said in a tweet that he was resigning from Trump's American Manufacturing Council, saying he was doing so “as a matter of personal conscience” and that “America's leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy.”"
     
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  18. Asmodean

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    Nice try. When we look at your remark here seriously and in earnest I am unfortunately thinking of the word retarded. If its about Trump versus former presidents (as you are clearly implying) it really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Basically a troll post ment to provoke. Lets see how the crazy Trump haters react!
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Sometimes he tries, other times clearly not. Unfortunately when a person makes too many nonsensical posts that seem to have a trolling aspect to it they're ruining it for themselves. He's on that edge for quite some time now. Then it is not on his convo partners anymore when he wants to be taken seriously but they don't care.
     
  20. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Are you aware that Barack went by the name Barry for more than half his life?

    OK you two. Most of the time I'm serious, and other times I like having fun. I truly believe trolls will save the world as they provoke the easily offended and introduce perspective into the eyes of people who shelter themselves in their designated echo chambers. Trump is the biggest troll I've ever seen.


    Trump was quick to denounce the pathetic tiki torch rally that caused a clash between neo-nazis and antifa. Obama had the opportunity plenty of times to deescalate the violence of Black Lives Matter and turn it into an actual movement of racial inclusitivity. But he did nothing because it's people like him who score political points off of grievance/victimhood culture and keeping black people down.
     
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