The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    You give him too much credit. The economy and the market were improving under Obama and at about the same rate. Much of the "Trump effect" is probably linked to the prospect of the tax bill promising corporate tax breaks. But have you noticed the market has been down for the past few days--today majorly? And why? Analysts are debating whether it was because of Trump's bellicose talk about nuclear war with North Korea or his new twitter war with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConell, or both. Any way you slice it, the answer seems to be: Trump. If the Republicans don't get the tax bill passed, they and Trump will be in big trouble politically. Being President has its upside and downside. The upside is you get the credit when the economy is doing well. The downside is you get the blame when it's not. And in either case, he may have little to do with it.
     
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  2. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    "Every day my head explodes with Trump. I sweep up the pieces of brain and put it back together with scotch tape and wire and wait again for it to explode tomorrow."
     
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The positive economy may be due to the fact that Trump hasn't done anything to muck up the works yet.
    I'm waiting to see what happens when the legal immigrates are reduced, the tax laws changed, and regulations cut.

    ...and God knows what else....
     
  4. egger

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    The bill for cutting the number of immigrants in half needs a majority in the House to bring it to the Senate floor and 60 votes in the Senate to pass. The probability of that happening for such a bill is nearly zero. The repeal of the ACA needed only 50 Senate votes and it didn't pass. Such an immigration bill is for political posturing.
     
  5. Balbus

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    There are always lags between administrations; Obama spent most of his first year dealing with a financial crisis and it’s after effects.

    Trump hasn’t really done anything to effect the economy yet he just inherited it, the Trump bump in the markets had as other mentioned more to do with hoped for tax cuts and has nothing to do with the real economy and that’s never good to have bubbles built on hope because ‘readjustments’ can be painful.

    The problem is that many people don’t see it that way, I’ve heard people say that Obama caused the financial crisis because he was there at the time and others that the benefits they were now getting from Obamacare where the result of Trump being elected.

    And what makes that problem worse is that some unscrupulous people and politicians will not correct them but use it to further their own agendas.
     
  6. Meliai

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    I think you quoted the wrong person

    I've always felt presidents receive too much credit for the economy anyways, but especially in the first 6 months any growth or lack thereof is most likely attributable to the previous president

    Furthermore from what i've seen in my own state job growth is mostly due to policies put in place by state and local governments rather than at the federal level
     
  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Trump paints himself into a corner declaring the U.S. is "locked and Loaded".
    Trump tells NK if they do anything provocative we're going to war.
    Guam issues "Duck and Cover" instructions.
    Japan deploys anti missile defenses.
    Reports are China is prepared to stop any preemptive strike.
    World leaders call on Trump to tone down his rhetoric.


    Now, if Kim does anything the U.S. has to respond. Trump has handed the decision to go to war to Kim Kong-un.
     
  8. egger

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    Can't get much worse than this unless, that is, Trump and Kim Jong-un start trading insults about their wives. Now that could set off WWIII.
     
  9. egger

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  13. egger

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    Vox posted an article about Trump's regions of strongest support.


    Getting ahead in the city is hard. In rural America, it’s even harder.
    A new report highlights the geographic divide in economic mobility.
    Updated by Jim Tankersley Mar 22, 2017, 9:10am EDT

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/22/15019952/rural-america-economic-mobility-trump-poverty

    From the article:

    "Of the four buckets that EIG mapped, Trump did far and away the best in high-distress, low-mobility counties. He won nearly 80 percent of those counties, representing nearly three-quarters of the population of high-distress, low-mobility areas. You’ll understand why when you see where those counties are overwhelmingly located: 85 percent of them are in rural areas, mostly concentrated in the Southeast.

    Trump’s strength among rural voters was, in part, strength among the people trapped in the most difficult places to get ahead economically — places EIG calls “vacated by the American Dream.”"


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  14. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Snopes is biased.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

    As for the other website, my computer is slow so I can't view it. As for O'Keefe dressing up as a Muslim to prove a point, exactly how is that lying?
     
  15. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Ok, I managed to get the other site working and there was a lot of opinion and no sources.
     
  16. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    They're also going broke due to the divorce of the founding couple. And they have a rescue Snopes go-fund-me page to recover all the money spent on prostitutes.
     
  17. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    For once it's kinda nice to have a president that condemns violence for a change. Rather than one who turned a blind eye to it and secretly encouraged it.
     
  18. psymon*

    psymon* shadilay

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU
     
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  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    We're discussing whether Comey has ties to Clinton, not if Snopes is bias.

    There is no Clinton Foundation defense contractor, lots of other contractors have contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
    A company Comey used to work for contributed to the Clinton Foundation, which lots of companies do, and his brother works for a large legal firm that once audited a Clinton Foundation finacial statement.

    Big deal.
     
  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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