The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    5 January 2020

    WHO published our first Disease Outbreak News on the new virus. This is a flagship technical publication to the scientific and public health community as well as global media. It contained a risk assessment and advice, and reported on what China had told the organization about the status of patients and the public health response on the cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan.

    10 January 2020

    WHO issued a comprehensive package of technical guidance online with advice to all countries on how to detect, test and manage potential cases, based on what was known about the virus at the time. This guidance was shared with WHO's regional emergency directors to share with WHO representatives in countries.

    Based on experience with SARS and MERS and known modes of transmission of respiratory viruses, infection and prevention control guidance were published to protect health workers recommending droplet and contact precautions when caring for patients, and airborne precautions for aerosol generating procedures conducted by health workers.




    So the CDC would have known of the possibility of a serious disease in early January... Had Trump listened to his advisors, he would have known also... But he knows more than all those guys.... :rolleyes:
     
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  2. He is now actively encouraging people to break social distancing and isolation. This goes against every piece of scientific evidence. The man is a fucking fool and a dangerous one at that!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Article dated 22nd April

    "(CNN)New autopsy results show two Californians died of novel coronavirus in early and mid-February -- up to three weeks before the previously known first US death from the virus."


    2 Californians died of coronavirus weeks before previously known 1st US death - CNN

    1st previously believed US death 1st March in Washington

    First death from coronavirus in the United States confirmed in Washington state - CNN

    And from the same WHO page you quoted without a link on purpose, because it contains this:

    "16-24 February 2020

    The WHO-China Joint mission, which included experts from Canada, Germany, Japan, Nigeria, Republic of Korea, Russia, Singapore and the US (CDC, NIH) spent time in Beijing and also travelled to Wuhan and two other cities. They spoke with health officials, scientists and health workers in health facilities (maintaining physical distancing). The report of the joint mission can be found here: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

    11 March 2020

    Deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity, and by the alarming levels of inaction, WHO made the assessment that COVID-19 can be characterized as a pandemic.

    WHO Timeline - COVID-19



    So, first case in China was 17 November, it took 6 weeks for the WHO to realise ( Bluedot actually flagged a pandemic before WHO did), then it took WHO another 2 1/2 months to declare it a Pandemic on March 11

    So now we know the first death was actually in California 6th February

    "A COVID-19-related death occurred on February 6; this death was not discovered and publicly revealed until April 22 after an autopsy.[72]"

    2020 coronavirus pandemic in California - Wikipedia


    10 days after that US CDC was having a little tour in Wuhan clueless about the first US death. It took the WHO over a month to declare it a pandemic after the first actual US death

    A week after that declaration, California was in lockdown


    So it really took 4 months for the WHO to declare it a pandemic, and 2 months for the CDC to work out when the first US death actually was

    And these are the "experts" you claim where advising Trump

    On top of that you had multiple start vectors for the virus in California earlier than New York, but still no official explanation as to why the difference in the spread....even though it's as painfully obvious as temperature and population spread and demographics

    i.e they are still not fucking doing their job properly
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

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    Neither is Trump...
     
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    No... That's not the reason I didn't add the link. Do not assume...

    Actually, for future reference... don't assume anything about me.
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And what is his job at the moment if state governors decide when lockdowns start and finish?
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So, just provide a link then, simple, otherwise it looks suspicious
     
  8. Tyrsonswood

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    Well Trump said he had "total control"... until he found out he didn't have total control.

    So now he just picks fights with the Governors he doesn't like... Just like an eight year old school yard bully. Something he has never mentally advanced from... eight years old.

    You seem to admire that "eight year old school yard bully" mentality. I wonder why?
     
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  9. Asmodean

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    We all know why. Trump is better at trolling than leading his country. What's not to admire for a forummer like VG.
     
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  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    We have the same problem here state premiers who for the most part were lawyers, or union reps, ran for office, then spent a couple years blowing money on tram lines no one uses or budgeting for sewage treatment works, all of a sudden thrust into action that is well beyond their IQ levels

    Some of them making the most ridiculous decisions, others opening schools next week

    As for the US, Cuomo actually has a good resume, DA, Attorney General, planning and development, something about homeless management, can't remember what

    But this Whitmer? County prosecutor and then this, way out of her depth. And the state governors calling the shots at the moment

    It's ridiculous

    I hope my country at least changes the rules so federal is in charge of everything next time something like this happens, not some twit that spent the previous 20 years prosecuting lame civil suits
     
  11. erofant

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    MY sincere wish is that our next President has some good experience at actually knowing how to govern, how to interact with other people with respect and dignity, take advice from experts in various fields, listen to the military leaders and the intelligence community, and doesn't bad-mouth, denigrate and mock them..

    You know what that all adds up to???????? ………………………………….A grown man.
     
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    Vaccine Chief Says He Was Removed After Questioning Drug Trump Promoted
    The New York Times
    Published April 22, 2020
    Updated April 23, 2020, 12:52 p.m. ET

    Vaccine Chief Says He Was Removed After Questioning Drug Trump Promoted

    excerpt:

    "The doctor who led the federal agency involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine said on Wednesday that he was removed from his post after he pressed for rigorous vetting of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug embraced by President Trump as a coronavirus treatment, and that the administration has put “politics and cronyism ahead of science.”

    Dr. Rick Bright was abruptly dismissed this week as the director of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, and removed as the deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response. He was given a narrower job at the National Institutes of Health.

    In a scorching statement, Dr. Bright assailed the leadership at the health department, saying he was pressured to direct money toward hydroxychloroquine, one of several “potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections” and repeatedly described by the president as a potential “game changer” in the fight against the virus.

    “I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit,” he said in his statement. “I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way.”"
     
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  13. egger

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    Like he did with the coronavirus, Trump can tell the 26 million workers in the U.S. who lost jobs to just be calm and the problem will go away.



    Record 26m jobless in US since coronavirus hit: Live updates
    About one in six American workers have lost their jobs in past five weeks, the worst string of layoffs on record.
    by Zaheena Rasheed, Usaid Siddiqui & Mersiha Gadzo
    April 23, 2020

    Record 26m jobless in US since coronavirus hit: Live updates
     
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  14. egger

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    Trump tried to make Birx agree with his downplaying the possibility that the coronavirus problem could recur in autumn. Birx didn't agree.

    Birx should have said that people like Trump mistakenly said that the virus would go away in April due to warm weather and wouldn't even become a significant problem.

    The current coronavirus death toll in the U.S. is near 49,000.



    Trump says coronavirus 'may not come back at all'
    By Brett Samuels
    04/22/20 06:56 PM EDT

    Trump says coronavirus 'may not come back at all'

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    "The president at one point inquired with Deborah Birx, who is coordinating the White House's coronavirus response, about whether the disease could disappear entirely by the fall.

    "We’re not only preparing for today and tomorrow, but we are preparing for six months from now, three months from now and making sure that all of these pieces are in place," Birx said.

    "Wouldn’t you say there’s a good chance that COVID will not come back?" Trump asked.

    "We don’t know. ... The great thing is we’ll be able to find it earlier," Birx replied."
     
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    I am a member of a high risk group and it’s horrifically obvious that Trump has already thrown us under the bus. The only bright spot is we live in Washington State and Governor Inslee is doing an admirable job in this crisis.
     
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  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So, a puppet basically
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Nice try. Let's see if (s)he bites!
     
  18. Flagme15

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    We will get rid of the virus in November. The virus named trump, aka covefius.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Here's how the coronavirus may damage kidneys

    Read this one, it's dated April 20th

    They are still unsure at this stage whether the virus attacks the kidneys / causes blood clots before, during or after serious breathing troubles

    If by high risk you mean respiratory troubles, it may sound counter intuitive as you have been hearing a lot about ventilators, but that's not as high risk as diabetes and hypertension, which came out in China, Italy and US early on as the highest risk factors
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    covfefe=covid


    He knew.... The bastard, he knew.
     
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