The despicable face of the 'nasty party' !!!

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  1. Vladimir Illich

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    Dominic Cummings and Andrew Sabisky are no better than Fascists !!!

    Boris Johnson faces calls to sack controversial Number 10 adviser


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    Feb 17th 2020 4:58AM
    Boris Johnson has been urged to sack a new Downing Street adviser who once suggested enforcing the uptake of contraception to stop unplanned pregnancies "creating a permanent underclass".

    Andrew Sabisky was drafted in to Number 10 after the PM's chief adviser Dominic Cummings called for "misfits and weirdos" to apply to advise the Government.

    He reportedly once suggested that the benefits of a purported cognitive enhancer, which can prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year".

    Writing on Mr Cummings' website in 2014, he said: "One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty.

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    "Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue."

    He also suggested black Americans have a lower average IQ than white Americans.

    Labour's shadow Cabinet Office minister Jon Trickett said: "There are really no words to describe Boris Johnson's appointment as one of his senior advisers a man who is on record as supporting the forced sterilisation of people he considers not worthy.

    "He must of course be removed from this position immediately."

    Instead this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics. 12/n

    — Dr Adam Rutherford (@AdamRutherford) February 17, 2020
    Geneticist Dr Adam Rutherford also criticised the comments, writing on Twitter: "Like Cummings, he appears to be bewitched by science, without having made the effort to understand the areas he is invoking, nor it's history."

    He said the "moral repugnance" of the remarks was "overwhelming", adding: "I am all for scientifically minded people advising government. In fact I am all for scientists advising government. From this perspective, Sabisky and indeed Cummings look bewitched by science without doing the legwork.

    "Instead this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics."

    It is understood special advisers are prepared to boycott meetings where Mr Sabisky is present and refuse to reply to any emails he sends.

    Environment Secretary George Eustice said it was a "matter for Dominic Cummings and Number 10" when asked about the remarks on Sky News.

    On Sunday, Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told the BBC: "I don't know the individual but they are particularly not views that I or the Government shares in any way, shape or form."
     
  2. Vladimir Illich

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    Now we see what bastards reside in or are employed in Downing Street !!!

    Downing Street refuses to condemn adviser’s eugenics comments

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    Feb 17th 2020 8:28AM
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    Downing Street has refused to condemn comments from an adviser who once suggested enforcing the uptake of contraception to stop unplanned pregnancies "creating a permanent underclass".

    Boris Johnson is under mounting pressure to sack Andrew Sabisky, who was drafted in to Number 10 after the Prime Minister's chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, called for "misfits and weirdos" to apply to advise the Government.

    Labour said Number 10's refusal to condemn the remarks was "disgusting", while Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the Government must "demonstrate some basic but fundamental values".

    These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating (or allowing to be generated). They need to get a grip fast and demonstrate some basic but fundamental values in the terms of our public debate. Rowena Mason on Twitter

    — Nicola Sturgeon (@NicolaSturgeon) February 17, 2020

    Mr Sabisky also reportedly once suggested that the benefits of a purported cognitive enhancer, which can prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year".

    Writing on Mr Cummings' website in 2014, he said: "One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty.

    "Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue."

    He also suggested that black Americans have a lower average IQ than white Americans.

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    Downing Street repeatedly refused to say whether Mr Johnson supported the views expressed by Mr Sabisky on eugenics – the selective breeding of humans – or the IQ of black people.

    A Number 10 spokesman said: "I'm not going to be commenting on individual appointments."

    The spokesman added: "The Prime Minister's views on a range of subjects are well publicised and documented."

    Number 10 insiders insisted that Mr Johnson did not support eugenics, but the Prime Minister has courted controversy with his views on IQ in the past.

    In a speech in 2013 he said any discussion about equality had to take account of the fact that 16% of "our species" had an IQ below 85 while around 2% had an IQ above 130, adding: "The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top."

    In 2000, while Mr Johnson was editor of the Spectator, the magazine carried an article from columnist Taki which said: "On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less randy, less fertile, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole, and whites fall somewhere in the middle, although closer to the Orientals than the blacks."

    It is disgusting that not only has Number 10 failed to condemn Andrew Sabisky's appalling comments, but also seems to have endorsed the idea that white people are more intelligent than black people

    Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery
    Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery said: "It is disgusting that not only has Number 10 failed to condemn Andrew Sabisky's appalling comments, but also seems to have endorsed the idea that white people are more intelligent than black people.

    "Boris Johnson should have the backbone to make a statement in his own words on why he has made this appointment, whether he stands by it, and his own views on the subject of eugenics."

    Ms Sturgeon said: "These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating (or allowing to be generated).

    "They need to get a grip fast and demonstrate some basic but fundamental values in the terms of our public debate."

    Geneticist and broadcaster Dr Adam Rutherford also criticised the comments, writing on Twitter: "Like Cummings, he appears to be bewitched by science, without having made the effort to understand the areas he is invoking, nor its history."

    Instead this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics. 12/n

    — Dr Adam Rutherford (@AdamRutherford) February 17, 2020

    He said the "moral repugnance" of the remarks was "overwhelming", adding: "I am all for scientifically minded people advising government. In fact, I am all for scientists advising government. From this perspective, Sabisky, and indeed Cummings, look bewitched by science without doing the legwork.

    "Instead, this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics."

    It is understood that special advisers are prepared to boycott meetings where Mr Sabisky is present and refuse to reply to any emails he sends.
     
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  3. Vladimir Illich

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    Got the bastard !!! - Now if we can get 'public opinion' on 'our' side a little further we can perhaps get rid of Dominic Cummings and his boss too !!!

    Downing Street adviser resigns amid criticism over eugenics comments

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    Feb 17th 2020 3:34PM
    A Downing Street adviser who once suggested enforcing the uptake of contraception to stop unplanned pregnancies "creating a permanent underclass" has quit his post.

    In the midst of growing controversy over his views Andrew Sabisky said he was standing down because he did not want to be a distraction to the Government.

    He tweeted: "The media hysteria about my old stuff online is mad but I wanted to help HMG not be a distraction.

    "Accordingly I've decided to resign as a contractor.

    Hey all,The media hysteria about my old stuff online is mad but I wanted to help HMG not be a distraction. Accordingly I've decided to resign as a contractor. I hope no.10 hires more ppl w/ good geopolitical forecasting track records & that media learn to stop selective quoting

    — Andrew Sabisky (@AndrewSabisky) February 17, 2020

    "I hope no.10 hires more ppl w/ good geopolitical forecasting track records & that media learn to stop selective quoting."

    In another tweet he said: "I know this will disappoint a lot of ppl but I signed up to do real work, not be in the middle of a giant character assassination: if I can't do the work properly there's no point, & I have a lot of other things to do w/ my life."

    It came after Boris Johnson was put under mounting pressure to sack Mr Sabisky, who was drafted in to Number 10 after the Prime Minister's chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, called for "misfits and weirdos" to apply to advise the Government.

    last of all I am beyond grateful to everyone who supported me publicly & privately, all kinds of great friends, left & right wing alike – you're the best people and eventually I will get around to thanking you all one by one

    — Andrew Sabisky (@AndrewSabisky) February 17, 2020

    Labour said Number 10's refusal to condemn the remarks was "disgusting", while Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the Government must "demonstrate some basic but fundamental values".

    Mr Sabisky also reportedly once suggested that the benefits of a purported cognitive enhancer, which can prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year".

    Writing on Mr Cummings' website in 2014, he said: "One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty.

    "Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue."

    He also suggested that black Americans have a lower average IQ than white Americans.

    Earlier on Monday, a Number 10 spokesman said: "I'm not going to be commenting on individual appointments."

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    The spokesman added: "The Prime Minister's views on a range of subjects are well publicised and documented."

    Number 10 insiders insisted that Mr Johnson did not support eugenics, but the Prime Minister has courted controversy with his views on IQ in the past.

    In a speech in 2013 he said any discussion about equality had to take account of the fact that 16% of "our species" had an IQ below 85 while around 2% had an IQ above 130, adding: "The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top."

    In 2000, while Mr Johnson was editor of the Spectator, the magazine carried an article from columnist Taki which said: "On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less randy, less fertile, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole, and whites fall somewhere in the middle, although closer to the Orientals than the blacks."

    It is disgusting that not only has Number 10 failed to condemn Andrew Sabisky's appalling comments, but also seems to have endorsed the idea that white people are more intelligent than black people

    Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery
    Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery said: "It is disgusting that not only has Number 10 failed to condemn Andrew Sabisky's appalling comments, but also seems to have endorsed the idea that white people are more intelligent than black people.

    "Boris Johnson should have the backbone to make a statement in his own words on why he has made this appointment, whether he stands by it, and his own views on the subject of eugenics."

    Ms Sturgeon said: "These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating (or allowing to be generated).

    "They need to get a grip fast and demonstrate some basic but fundamental values in the terms of our public debate."

    Cannot believe No 10 has refused to comment on Andrew Sabisky. I don't know him from a bar of soap, but don't think we'd get on ....... must be no place in Government for the views he's expressed

    — Caroline Nokes (@carolinenokes) February 17, 2020

    Tory MP Caroline Nokes, chairwoman of the Commons Women and Equalities Committee, said: "Cannot believe No 10 has refused to comment on Andrew Sabisky.

    "I don't know him from a bar of soap, but don't think we'd get on ....... must be no place in Government for the views he's expressed."

    Labour leadership hopeful Rebecca Long-Bailey said: "We've got a Prime Minister who once published an article saying black people 'are at the other pole' in terms of IQ.

    "It's no accident that Johnson has hired someone who supports eugenics."

    Acting Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said: "He (the Prime Minister) must also make crystal clear why he signed off on this appointment and curb Dominic Cummings' power to appoint and sack at will."

    Geneticist and broadcaster Dr Adam Rutherford also criticised the comments, writing on Twitter: "Like Cummings, he appears to be bewitched by science, without having made the effort to understand the areas he is invoking, nor its history."
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Wasn't there a similar argument in the 1800s in England about welfare, that it would keep people and n permanent poverty?
     
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    Eugenics ‘weirdo’ gets hired by Boris and Cummings, well not a surprise Social Darwinism has long been the bedrock of right wing thinking.
     
  6. Vladimir Illich

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    I wouldn't know, I wasn't alive then, so perhaps Methusalah here can enlighten us all !!!
     

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