The Death of a Gentleman

Discussion in 'Relationships' started by Hudson0697, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

    I can tell you what I do. I treat people the way I am treated. Boy or girl. Whenever people have a problem with that, it says a whole lot about them.
  2. Matt1979

    Matt1979 Senior Member

    I know this is an old thread, but I found it interesting. I hold doors open for men and women, it's just common courtesy. I have always been interested in feminism and gender and equality issues and I notice how often the word "gentleman" is used to refer to specific behaviour by a man - "gentleman" still means something in many contexts, but while the word "lady" used to as well, that word has lost its true meanings to a great extent, a good example of the semantic derogation of women, which is a subject I find interesting.

    I cringe when I hear "lady" in many contexts when "gentleman" isn''t used, to me it just sounds too over polite and suggests people don't like to say "woman". I am British and I have noticed how "lady" is often used very loosely in the USA and this is my least favourite use. I have seen posts on forums saying things like "the lady at the store", but they wouldn't refer to a man as "the gentleman at the store", it would just be "man or "guy", the latter being very informal.

    Language doesn't seem to reflect equality and it seems society feels that men don't need to be treated with the same level of politeness, courtesy and respect than women, hence people insisting on using "lady/ladies", but not "gentleman" unless a man behaves in a specific way. Sadly, when gender and language issues are brought up, some people can view it as "political correctness gone mad" and also when men comment about equal and fair treatment, it isn't often as noticed.
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  3. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    Yes there isnt many of us Gentleman around these days . Manners dont appear to be taught .
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  4. Ralfee

    Ralfee Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    What about that old saying that " good guys finish last."

    My cat told me that being a 'nice guy' just means your a target to be taken advantage of...
  5. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    I'm still here matey and still practice what I preach !!!
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  6. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    Thats great to know but I am afraid we are very much in the minority .

    A small part of this is down to women wanting to be treated as equals of which I agree with but its lost them some of the respect they got yesteryear.
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  7. Toecutter

    Toecutter Super Moderator Super Moderator

    I always open / hold the door for others,

    Unless you are on your phone, if you are that rude the door get closed .
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2022
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  8. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    I have and do for all . However I have had some negative comments from females ( I wont call them ladies here ) ,clearly showing their displeasure that I am implying they they are helpless or incapable . :confused::eek::eek:
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  9. Eric!

    Eric! Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    And some of them may possibly think we are coming on to them. We live in such an insecure, wishy-washy, judge-mental society - and it seems like there’s no right answer to all that madness these days. The thing that keeps me grounded in being a gentleman is the fact that an overwhelming majority have greatly appreciated it. I don’t care how old fashioned it is to some…..I’ll settle for old fashioned any day. It’s genuine and unique now, and whenever it’s seen, most are in awe of it!
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  10. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Just seems natural to me. My post of 2014 is still true to me.
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  11. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ Dreamer Administrator

    My friend the Cannabis Poet was a true gentleman and told me to treat everyone with respect, until proven otherwise.

    He held doors open for all, Ladies and Gentlemen alike. I try to do the same.

    And if alive today would be appreciative and respectful towards people's gender fluidity as well.
  12. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    People are so up tight about everything these days, that to us old fucks that have been around for decades , the world has gone nuts!
  13. Toecutter

    Toecutter Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Agreed, everyone is in such a hurry, many of our elderly are looked down upon as being a burden
  14. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ Dreamer Administrator

    I grew up with my grandparents a lot of the time. When I was 16 I was thinking to myself, how could they be so out of touch?

    But now that I am almost 70 myself I wonder how I myself got that way... LOL :)

    I do try to keep up with things, but I think it is easier for us oldsters now with the new media.

    Wish there was more peace, love and understanding in this crazy world. And more gentlemen. But not snobs!
  15. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

    I was born on the tail end of the baby boom. Woman of my age who I came into contact with did not want to be fussed over, but treated as equals. If you see anyone heading for a closed door with their hands full , it is a nice thing to open the door for them regardless of their age or gender.
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  16. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior Village Idiot

    In the U.S., I think much of it is the sociologically corrosive effects of the Objectivist cult of "rugged individualism" tirelessly preached by the Reaganists since 1980, which extols selfishness as the highest virtue and demonizes compassion as weakness and community as Socialism. We now have entire generations of people who literally can't see beyond their myopic "I, me, mine" egocentrism; an entire society with an antisocial personality disorder, fundamentally incapable of empathy.
  17. Toecutter

    Toecutter Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Have you tried to talk to a teenager or someone in their 20s lately ?
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  18. jimandjan

    jimandjan Member

    Guess what? I can't see it getting better. Due to health reasons. I stayed home during Covid, and now don't mind being alone, working in my garden. I only miss, my visits to the local sports bar visiting with friends, but it closed, so I have no where to go. On first step to being a loner. The world will go mad without me.
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  19. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ Dreamer Administrator

    I see your point, clearly!
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  20. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Members

    Me me me me, look at me..look at me....I took 12 selfies to put on Instagram...I'm an influencer..... And these people are going to be taking care of us. I am saving up my pills.....
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