The Dating Customs Of Western Society.

Discussion in 'Relationships' started by Bilby, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    I was having a discussion on POF forums and I brought up the point that it is the custom of western society for men to offer themselves to women and for women to say yay or nay. However a woman may present herself to a man. It is not a no-no for a woman but it does not generally happen. Does anyone strongly disagree with me?
    Anyway there were two women on the POF forum who appeared to disagree with me.
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    I would have no idea...
     
  3. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    close. the custom is for men to offer themselves to women and for women to say nay.
     
  4. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    Buggered If I Know, I Suggest Speaking To Someone Who Has Actually Been On A Date In The Last ** Years Because I Certainly Haven't.... :bigcry:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  5. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    I don't even open the door for my girls
     
  6. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    Manners Maketh The Man..... ;)



    Cheers Glen.
     
  7. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    :rofl:
     
  8. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Treat a girl like diet she'll stick to ya like mud
     
  9. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    A Mate Used To Say.......Treat Em Mean, Keep Em Keen.

    He Treated His Women Badly.......They Loved Him Regardless.... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
  10. secret_thinker

    secret_thinker Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I used to think this was a bunch of bullshit but it seems kind of accurate at times. I can understand why in some circumstances. If you grew up being treated like crap, it can seem like that's what you deserve or maybe you can't do better.

    I will say though that if that is someone's game plan (male or female) they will be unhappy in the end and if the person that is willing to accept being treated like crap doesn't do some growing and self evaluation, they too will remain unhappy.
     
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  11. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I would have used different phrasing. "It is the custom for the man to woo the woman." rather than "offer themselves."

    And I would probably agree with the two women that disagreed with the OP in that there are customs whereby a woman can let a man know that she is interested in being wooed by him.

    The form of the interaction (almost a ritual) may be that the man takes the initiative, but that created other customs, other paths, where a woman could start the process.
     
  12. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    only eat her halfway?
     
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  13. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    I was forced to eat a girls vagina last week Becuz I didn't wanna come inside her to quickly. I didn't even wanna eat her half way !
     
  14. Alternative_Thinker

    Alternative_Thinker Darth Mysterious

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    I don't know, I actually think the OP is kind of onto something here. This is also something that I've been discussing about with my best friend(male) lately. But I don't really know about "western" society in that sort of general terms. I'd say more like the countries that speak English as their native language. I have absolutely no clue why, but the North American girls are the worst when it comes to this.......from my own experience, of course. I was on OKCupid a long time ago and I got bloody nowhere. It was like you try to be the most sincere gentleman with a witty sense of humour, and almost all of them would just ignore you like you're nothing. And their attitude, too, like, a lot of them also seem to have this extreme feminist type outlook on men where we're somehow a bunch of total simpletons and they are somehow a much more sophisticated entity. It's like, that's not gender equality is about. That's pure discrimination.

    Anyway, the way I look at it, the whole dating "custom" is that men are seen as these perverts(to be fair, pervs DO exist) and women just can't afford to give us men more chances. And then there's the mind games. You try to be all straightforward with these girls but they start playing by some kind of manual that tell them "the next move should be to keep the dude guessing by doing this or that", or some shit to fuck with your head.

    I feel bad because this is the kind of BS that the best friend I've mentioned above(in the first paragraph) goes through all the time. He doesn't need that shit, he got out of a really bad, abusive relationship(the girl was a violent psycho) last year, and still hasn't recovered from it completely. Now he keeps wondering why "this girl seems interested but only wants to do this or that", or "that girl is always friendly but always asking for this or that". I just tell him to be chill about it all, because those are the girls who play by the kind of "dating customs". Kinda makes me feel grateful, though, that my girlfriend is more into the whole mutual respect/happiness thing, and is never a type to start any mind game.

    At any rate, I personally feel like a lot of the females today, especially in the English speaking parts of the world, are taking men for granted. So I think I agree with the OP in some ways.

    ::The AT::
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    ROFLMAO! Some typos are classic!
     
  16. His Eden

    His Eden Queen of Mean

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    I initiated the relationship with my husband by asking him out, and he was not the first man I asked out (just the last). I see no issue with a woman asking a man out, or making the first move. I find it pointless to be interested in someone, but to do nothing because of the "he should have asked me out first" type of thinking. It creates missed opportunities, and places expectations on someone, who is likely clueless as to what your expectations are.

    The exception would be in a place where the culture/religion dictates which gender should make the first move. (As in a woman/man could get punished for making the first move, etc)
     

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