The Dangers of a Fourth Reich

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    What's important is that each candidate can beat Trump but it's an easier road with Biden.
     
  2. DrRainbow

    DrRainbow Ambassador of Love

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    The world is going to mop the floor with the Fourth Reich just as soon as they are ready to grow a pair, stop hurting children at football matches and bring it!​
     
  3. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    it's also 8 months to the election and we're in the middle of a virus panic that people have managed to blame trump for.
     
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  4. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    did they do their polling in a dim infested area ?
     
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  5. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Something never considered of American gun culture is what happens when citizens become the bad guys? The Americans who own guns are the ones who support a dictatorship. Americans have already passed the tipping point on some things. A cult of personality and hatred of science and media already exists. Very easy to manipulate into what we see now.

    Right around the time the WW2 generation is all dead we forget everything they did.

    There is but it's down to like great nephews or something distant like that who all agreed to not have kids.
     
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  6. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    yeah, the united states.
     
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  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Unnuanced remarks like this is why the term libtard has merit.
     
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  8. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's just the facts. Current president is a dictator and his voters which tend to owns guns are OK with that. Call me what you will. There is all kinds of information to back this up not my personal opinion.
     
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  9. Varmint

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    Actually, it IS your own personal opinion. The fact that your opinion is shared by others like you is no indication of truth, nor of being right. Our Constitution forbids the government to regulate the private citizen as well as arms. All laws or regulations disregarding this are criminal in nature for that simple fact, as are those who proposed and/or passed such illegal acts.

    As for Trump being a dictator, there is no evidence to prove that. What would you call Obama? And all the others who disregarded the Constitution so they could do what they want? No matter what party is in power at the moment, the desire to ignore our highest law is at the root of every problem we face in our country today. No matter what the POTUS of the day or the Congress of the day says, there never has been, nor will there ever be any reason to disregard out Constitution to implement another unnecessary law, especially when those who have the responsibility for doing so refuse to enforce the laws already in existence. Likewise, there never has been, nor ever will be any reason to commit to any action not authorized by our Constitution, regardless of the endless so-called "reasons" for doing so.
     
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  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    No, the way you worded it its an anti gun nut generalisation.
     
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  11. I'minmyunderwear

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    i now realize that when he says "dim" he means democrat. he should go back to 'rats, at least with that one it's clear what he's trying to say.
     
  12. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    All I can do is observe my culture. And though that I see gun owners as a threat. I've shot guns, I'm NRA certified whatever that means, my friends owned guns. All of this made me sure my opinion was right. These people will kill you if they have to. Most Americans (even those who own a few guns) are afraid of the NRA. So to the NRA it is us who is not American. So they accept the end of democracy because they get their way.

    Numerous historians agree with me. Trump is on the verge of something and the 2nd amendment is not stopping him. It really only applies if a black guy is in office or we limit the sales of Ar-15's.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Doesn't make every (or even most) American gun owner a serious supporter for dictatorship.

    All others can do when you try to exaggerate stuff is nuance and correct you, so that's what I did.
    I'm sorry, but when you react to such a response of mine with its just the facts, it's clear you either stated it in a charged way and are set on maintaining that exaggerated claim or are suffering from some kind of antigun tunnel vision. In both cases you're throwing in your own proverbial windows if you want to be taken seriously.
     
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    I'm not smert, but you dirty jews need to forget what to do soon
     
  15. unfocusedanakin

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    Republicans have been under attack since the 1960's. They have ALWAYS been upset at something. Civil rights, birth control, trans rights you name it. This is why they feel everyone is against them and why they feel that true democracy is not good. So we have an electorial college.

    It's just interesting to me how much they claimed Obama was a dictator when he did nothing like Trump has. Or how his more hardcore supporters are already planning domestic terrorism should he loose. They accept a person who shares their views in place of democracy. This is shown in the way they defend the things I mentioned by saying they are OK since the "US is not a real democracy anyway"

    I'm disappointed you would say this. But I am very passionate and I guess I did not say it the right. You are nor a hardcore member of his cult so there is hope for me I can word it all better.

    How many of these do you think apply in the US now?

    I would say all except 6 and that's getting close


    The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
      Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
      Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
      The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

    4. Supremacy of the Military
      Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

    5. Rampant Sexism
      The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

    6. Controlled Mass Media
      Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

    7. Obsession with National Security
      Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
      Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

    9. Corporate Power is Protected
      The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed
      Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
      Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
      Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
      Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

    14. Fraudulent Elections
      Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.




    Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It’s not enough just to laugh at him | Jonathan Freedland

    Think Trump's acting like a dictator now? What if he's reelected after this? - CNNPolitics
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Seems you have equated american gun owners with republicans.
     
  17. I'minmyunderwear

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    seems you're stating things that have been obvious forever.
     
  18. Eric_R_70

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    The rise of neo fascism is everywhere these days. Not just Germany where it is unlawful but Scandinavia too. StormFront even has a toe hold in Denmark and Finland. Very sad times in deed.
     
  19. Varmint

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    I find it fascinating that those who oppose gun owners are also the same hypocrites that have teams of armed thugs acting as praetorean guards for them. I also find it hilarious that, when someone tries to rape, rob, or otherwise harm THEM, the first thing these darwin award nominees will do is dial 911 and start praying that someone with a gun shows up to deliver them from some nut with a knife or club.
     
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  20. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    There are other ways to defend yourself then a gun. I find it interesting the killing and punishment is so important for gun owners. A general culture of come on try it. It's not enough that the burglar runs away he is going to be sorry he tried it. If someone knows you are home they are not going to stay. It's the number one deterrent. But for the gun owner the scenario is you hear the bugler and fire in the dark. The joy is in the vigilante justice. He will not steal from others because of your actions. These are the stories I heard when I was around guns. It's fun to discuss how the caliber will hit this or that body part.

    Not really the same thing as like a martial art. Where part of it is self defense there is discipline. You don't spend time thinking of how you would crack a shin in half. American gun culture is a combination of civil war fantasy and people suffering from extreme anxiety. The people most afraid always have a crutch. It makes people afraid to hurt them and the world less scary. I'm not saying every single person who owns a gun is mentally ill. But the crazier ones always seem to like something about guns.

    I would agree only certain people need guns. Your point that people need services of those people so you can have guns too is silly. If you want to use guns so much go into those lines of work. Outside those fields it's unsafe because you don't have the right training or the reason to need it. Most times police in America come they don't need a gun and the #1 reason they do is because you might. That's the acceptable culture of gun owners I guess. Everyone is just a little nervous you have a gun but calm because they have a gun too
     
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