The Coming Collapse

The Third Reich? The Salazar dictatorship in Portugal? The Franco regime in Spain? So what about them?

 

OK.
One might compare Franco's legacy with the legacy of Joseph Tito in Yugoslavia as they were contemporaries. Am hearing that they want to dig up Franco and move his final resting place.

Third Reich: Brought down by a huge war it started. More interesting to consider the regime of Mussolini in Italy.a more nuanced subject.

Don't Know much about Salazar. Did he borrow to excess?

 

Libretarians will argue that the monies in question have been taxed already. The dollar thresholds seem high. Are family farms worth that kind of money?

I am happy that deductions for Real Estate and local taxes are capped at 10K. as it helps with said deficit.

 

As a matter of fact, no he didn't. He was an economist, and apart from spending a lot of money putting down revolts in the African colonies, he left Portugal with an economy that was growing well above the European average at the time of the military coup and "Carnation Revolution" of 1974 that overthrew actually his successor, Marcelo Caetano. The colonial wars were raging, young men were fleeing to France to avoid the draft, and people chafed under the police state with its suppression of dissidents and torture, and the people were war weary. Actually, Salazar died in 1968 and it was his successor, Caetano, who was in power when the roof fell in on the 42-year-old New State that Salazar had founded, partly as a result of a British journalist's expose of the "Wiriyamu massacre" in Mozambique.

 

Red pill ...

Eat and enjoy a life, for the love of God and Country..

(4lulz)

 

The question is do the right care about the society they live in or just about their side winning?

It seems to me that many on the right don’t care about the methods used, the ends justifies the means, I think many would happily accept an authoritarian regime if it was of their political persuasion and so don’t worry about the trampling of norms, precedent and due process that inches the state toward that end.

Imagine the uproar from the right if the Democrats did even 1% of the things that are going on now daily while others on the right seem happy to threaten an armed response to left wing policies and especially any infringement of the 2nd amendment ‘rights’ and the fellow travellers like the NRA push out fear propaganda about the violent left.

I think it’s clear that certain people on the right would have no problem in censoring their opponents voices and would think it a fine idea to use the mechanisms of state to harasses, supresses and intimidate their political ‘enemies’. Doing this while all the time claiming they were only trying to protect the nation so as to make America great again.

It reminds me of the Vietnam War quote - “we had to destroy the village in order to save it.”

 

Remembering Mrs. Teresa Heinz Kerry describing this upheaval at the Democratic Convention where her husband was nominated for the Presidency.
She had been a resident of one of the colonies in Africa.

 

trump is the tip of the iceberg of a phenomena that's been going on for decades, on and off the main stage.
while it is possible to hope for a real and lasting correction, it looks more like nails in coffins,
and the question that arises is one of how long will america remain a place, that anyone who has a real practical choice, will wish to continue living.

 

I post a lot of truthdig articles, but only because they're so good:

America Is on the Road to Becoming a Fascist State

 

The problem with civil war is this, and this occurred with the last civil war too.


As soon as USA says okay to civil war, the entire country loses status both politically and economically on the world stage.

In essence China would become the world superpower and its highly likely the dollar, would no longer be used as bedrock currency and the nation collapses. Nobody wins that civil war and over the next century under this scenario China rules the USA.

Russia would also make great strides in trade and Israel would be alone to defend itself, and you’d actually see events of biblical Revelations play out.


Ironically the conspiracy theorist of new world order, would be fulfilled.

As tough as it sounds, the left is gonna have to grit it out, and also humbly understand (we’re talking the young millennials here) they suffer because they didn’t regularly turn out to vote mainstream left, they fractured their voter power for idealist left which doesn’t have enough support.

Idealist right however is trendy because darkside system 1 heuristics always markets better for media sales.

 

i'm a whole lot less interested in 'status' then the kind of place i'd like to live.
(one with lots of public transportation, minimalist environmental impact, and a culture that doesn't hate logic or consideration)
status doesn't do shit for my head, the big one or the little one.

wars, civil or otherwise, make big holes in the ground full of unhappy dead people, often accomplishing little of lasting positive value otherwise,
and nothing that couldn't have been achieved by logical and considerate people without them.

instead of 'civil wars' what's wrong with peaceful, civil and friendly regional divorces?

and its still not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy either.