The Carter III

You and all the other mainstream sheep.

 

Wow I dont know who Immortal Technique is. And that's probably because he didn't suck dick to get into the business. But he is good. Bet he's not on MTV every week like Wayne.

 

That's funny that because my taste in music is more broad than yours, I must be a sheep. Considering I hate radio so much that most of my CD's are from five or more years ago OR mixtapes I made downloading shit that DOESN'T play on the radio.

You can talk like you think you have superior taste, but the truth is you just close your mind to anything 'popular' by calling it mainstream garbage.

 

lol, you were making it seem as if the artist is not underground then they are not good. like once they turn mainstream they turn into shit.

If you think Common is not talented you indeed are an idiot. There is no reason to argue with you, you have no weight to your musical opinion. Obviously when you have musical geniuses praising Common, you KNOW it's something good.

 

You won't ever see him on MTV. Immortal Technique is so extremely opposed to turning commercial. He is a stubborn fuckhead. But he is a living proof that you can be successful without bowing to record companies

 

You don't even know what type of music I like, but some people have to feel that are superior than others in some way. Your way being music.

You aren't the only one who does what you just said. There's this thing called the iPod which has killed the radio.

Well let's look at the "popular" choices from the past 10 years that my mind is closed off from: Lil Wayne, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, N Sync, Jonas Brothers, wow this is hard because I closed my mind off from so much good music, 50 Cent, Lil Flip, Lil Jon, Lil Scrappy, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Kelly Clarkson, Ricky Martin, Soulja Boy, T.I., My Chemical Romance, Justin Timberlake, Fall Out Boy, Obviously more, but please defend these people as making quality music.

 

^A lot of those artists AREN'T really talented. However, Kanye West is a genius. He is a decent MC but his true talent lies in production

Kanye's beats are unreal. His older lyrics are definitely prime. Listen to College Dropout and tell me he isn't good.

Lil Scrappy doesn't deserve to be on that list either. His songs that weren't on the radio much are actually pretty good.

(And Justin Timberlake is on a whole different level of talent. Yeah he used to be all pop and shit, but he is really really REALLY good at what he does, and has actually made good music. Not to mention he is an amazing dancer.)

 

Which isn't stubborn. It's trendy.

MC Hammer refused the first handful of record deals that were offered too.

Twista did the same.

Esham did as well.

The list can go on. He knows he would lose more fans than he would gain by going 'commercial'. Which is a lame phrase anyway because signing a record deal doesn't automatically mean somebody is going to alter their style.

 

Makaveli, what the fuck are you even arguing? I think you made this thread just to feel like your musical taste is better than everyone else's.

This thread is just bait for a retarded argument...

 

I'm not even the one who started the argument, the insults, or the putting down of other peoples opinions. I believe it was you who initially called me an idiot.

If you get your feelings hurt easily, you shouldn't attack people.

"It aint trickin' if ya got it"

 

You know just because something is socially relevant and has real thought put into it doesn't mean it's not entertaining...Rap and Hip Hop are interchangeable, technically 'rapping' is just the MC but it can be used to describe 'Hip Hop' as well.

 

I didn't say that stuff wasn't entertaining at times, but when it's ALL you rap about it becomes no different than ALWAYS rapping about bling and bitches.

Repetitive is repetitive, and if I'm going to listen to something repetitive, it wont be repetitive bitching about social standings with no real plan to improve.

That's all most artists who talk of "real shit" do is bitch about inequality and social standing but offer nothing more than blame with no real solutions.

At the end of the day the shit really is all on the same level and it is a matter of preference. I just said that funny is what I'm looking for more often than 'real' because I live in the same kind of place as most of the guys rapping about 'real' shit and have lived through similar ordeals.

Again, I do listen to a number of 'socially aware' artists, but I prefer the ones that rap about fantasy and are humorous.

 

Sigh...My point was that being socially conscious doesn't force you to be dull and boring and without humor. Here's a good example:
chorus:
we don't need no walkie-talkies, nope no walkie talkies, we don't need your coughing when offing the morning coffee, no, we don't need no walkie-talkies, nope no walkie-talkies we just want our hermitry to stay and our coffee to go

and the last shall be, first to immerse in the pass out heat, face in the mud where the moxie melt 'til he woke up drowning in chachkes hell, more in a cave with a torch on the wall than a window arrangement of porcelain dolls on a brand new day, saw what he saw, property owners who crawl to the mall, with a bad toupee and a face like he author the law, pace like he mourning a loss, right hand on a can of worms, left full of gold he will trade for turf, i mean thats o.k., you got to answer to you at the end of the volatile day, but a model of mercy and might? no way, marionette who will clap and obey, dude, look, all that noise? call that flight of the water boys, meet and greet and they all slap five, cheek to cheek when they colonize, and a grown ass man shall abide as he wish, walk that path with a dime and a stick, walk that path with a diamond and wine, walk that path to the firing line, just walk, pay no mind to the new recruit with the play-doh spine, let's be friends from opposite ends, wave to the kid don't hop on the fence, play to the radius far and away, orbit wide don't park in his space, one little martyr who talk in his face make one little weathermen sharpen the blades.

chorus

and the last shall be, first to the curb with the mad cow meat, face in the bars of a regular cell when he woke up high in collectible hell, boom town kid who was taught by the binge that a man who expire with the most shit win, that's warpy american nonsense penned by the rich, not a routine friend in a pinch, still not used to the stench, how it throws off otherwise lucid events, in the case the afraid observe i got a pro-keds box full of layman's terms, it goes hey, peace, pray for the plagued, major relief and capacious rains, but just cuz i don't want to war with you, it don't mean go warm up the barbecue, i'm like pardon you, sawed off limit, my high noon is a quick little minute, i don't wanna spend it sitting with a critic, who simply isn't going to ever really get it, this HQ is alive and alone, no driveway no sign of a home, no dial tone, no line for the phone, no world's tiniest violin song, and i might just lie to them all, lie in the morgue with a deep breath hiding and bored, fighting a smile, highly annoyed, when the timing is right i will rise and record, cal for the monster beats and blockhead got animal drums like he's doctor teeth, it goes red light green light 1 2 3, one large coffee, fuck you, peace.

T-A-K-E-N-O-P-R-I-S-O-N-E-R-S T-A-K-E-N-O-P-R-I-S-O-N-E-R-S T-A-K-E-N-O-P-R-I-S-O-N-E-R-S T-A-K-E-N-O-P-R-I-S-O-N-E-R-S T-A-K-E-N-O-P-R-I-S-O-N-E-R-S

j.d. - i crawled down to the basement when the weather got cold, like a lost lamb returning to the fold, and when the outside world recedes from view, it's just a year's supply of make-up and memories of you, 1967 colt 45, holding back the vampires, keeping me alive, there's an envelope with some cash in it out by the front door, this is what they make you take the medication for

 

whats funny is that the people who i know that are die hard dick riding lil wayne fans say this album is garbage.

although i like that Mr. Carter song, jay-z rips. but wayne hates on nas and swears he's better than him, nigga should get shot for sayin some ignorant shit like that haha

 

Cause you ARE an idiot.
Saying Common is bad cause he doesn't rap on beat, yet you praise Wayne...half his shit is fucking WAY off and he doesn't even spit decent metaphorical shit in most songs.

You're logic is screwed up

 

Sigh. . .

And I'd rather hear about bling and bitches while I look out my window and take the time to be socially conscious.......

"Caus' you thought Lil Wayne was Weezy, but Weezy is Wayne.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Please lord....don't let me be misunderstood".

Sometimes he makes perfect sense. Other times he doesn't make any sense at all.

It's all a matter of preference, really.....as I said earlier.

 

And just for emphasis. . .

This album will go down as a classic. Not just because it has the Jay-Z endorsement OR because Kanye produced like half the cd.

It'll go down as a classic because it will be talked about forever. It's the most original album I've heard in fucking years. I even compared it to the Kanye cd to see if the music and beats were similar.

They're not.

The majority of mainstream music tends to sound the same. With the exception of the one pop radio song on the album, it stands completely separate from the pack. While most of you seem to disagree, you wont be able to deny it when he's gone. For the past year you couldn't listen to any radio station, hardly, without hearing him in somebody's song. Or on his own song. You could hardly buy an album he wasn't on. He released more that 3 albums, and his commercial production leaked half of his songs for the first Carter III. He released it as an album and re did the entire Carter III to make sure people got their monies worth.

He turned into the biggest thing to hit rap since Eminem.

C3 = Dynasty.

" Wait, As I Put The Light Down His Throat.
I Can Only See Flow.
His Blood Starting To Flow.
His Lungs Starting To Grow.
This One Starting To Show.
Strong Signs Of Life.
Wheres The Stiches Heres The Knife.
Smack His Face His Eyes Open.
I Reply With A Nice Welcome Back.
Hip Hop I Saved Your Life."

 

But it's not original, the beats are generic, the subject matter's typical. You're assuming that anyone who raps about society does it all the time, or even most. Which isn't true. Like you said, it's preference, but then you turn around and call this a classic and say it's the most original album in years, which I can objectively say isn't true, it's ridiculous. The lyrics you keep posting really aren't very good by the way.

 

I have to disagree on your thought about the beats. Usually most rap I listen to, even underground, the beats aren't as good as Lil Wayne's. Some are shitty, but others are great.

 

The beats are not generic. They're on a different wave length than anything else out right now. ALL subject matter is typical any more. Everything has been said, really. That's across all formats.

You have yet to name another album with similar beats or flow, so you can't objectively say it isn't the most original album in years.

It is a matter of preference, which is a matter of opinion, and it's my opinion that this album will be recorded as one of the classics of my generation.

The lyrics I've been posting aren't meant to be the best of the lyrics. They're just meant to illustrate the point that Weezy is at the top of the game.

All of them deal with how great he is or people sleeping on him. So I'm sorry if you were unable to make the connection, but there was a method to the madness.