The Caravan arrives

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Ok

    Still, plenty of other regions of the world with big drug trades, raw supply.....yet there seems to be a particular nastiness about it confined to Brazil and Mexico

    I'm going to put it down to the shade of brown those people are in those countries
     
  2. soulcompromise

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    It feels like we're doing something wrong by turning people away who are fleeing the violence in their country. I suspect that few of those trying to enter the country on this caravan are related to the drug trade. And I'm not concerned that they are immigrants. Or that we're running out of housing. Or jobs. The entire argument against "the caravan" is nonsense. It's all one big charade feeding the egotist mentality that seeks only to vilify Mexicans and Latin Americans.

    If nothing else, I hope that this can be the beginning of America treating immigrants with the respect that they deserve, not only on an interpersonal basis, but also in the news media.
     
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  3. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    Just read this headline on MSN.

    Central American 'caravan' women and children enter U.S., defying Trump

    I think it's beautiful to see the perseverance and sheer will power of these people as they strive for a better and more meaningful life! :)
     
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  4. Noserider

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    Don't worry about it.

    But I read "Goddamnit" in Dee's voice.
     
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  5. fraggle_rock

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    It has been around in the UK since 1821, so yes I think it's pretty mainstream.
    Apparently you haven't heard of it, but that's not really the paper's fault.
     
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  6. fraggle_rock

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    Where did I say 'every country in the world', and why don't you try responding with something a little more substantial than attitude?

    Seriously... what bearing does 'cool' have on whether or not it's accurate? So if it's cool, that means it's automatically wrong?

    Notice I've produced several links (that you apparently didn't read). On other forums the liberal-bashers at least quote Breitbart or opinion columns from WSJ or Forbes or something... they don't just talk about sipping soy lattes in Starbucks as if having a certain opinion automatically turns me into a cliché.

    I've definitely done much better arguing my point here than you have.
     
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  7. Joboo6

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    Yeah, I had heard of them but didn't know they had been around that long. I'm sure they have some good reporting and I'm sure U.S. Involvement has caused strife in third world countries but unfortunately most of the strife is due to said countries leadership or lack there of.
     
  8. fraggle_rock

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    Did you read the articles?
    The US handpicked that 'leadership' and provided them with military assistance.

    That's my entire point.
     
  9. Piney

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    The term: Border Jumper comes to mind.
     
  10. Joboo6

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    Yes I did, and according to the writer that is what happened. See, that sounds awful so it makes for good press. What's not in there is why do things come to this, there are probably many things that benefited the population by having a new leader. I'm not concentrating on just one place but superpower meddling has been going on since the beginning of time. Our government made many efforts to keep communism and socialism out of the Western Hemisphere. In hindsight it looks like a very good idea since neither of these types of government have ever flourished. It always ends up badly for the less fortunate. A free capital society has proven to be the best for all involved, it's clear. Or, why would they be coming here. We have to control our borders or we have no country. Hell, the liberal Swedes I work with laugh at how we have no border control.
     
  11. Meliai

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    Shades of brown? Wow VG, never would have pegged you as a racist. I guess you're feeling with the current political climate now is a good time to come out of the closet about it

    Good to know so i can put you on the list of people to avoid here
     
  12. Meliai

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    :D
     
  13. fraggle_rock

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    'Probably'?

    Did you read the part about the farmers being kicked off of their own plantations so that the fascist government could sell cash crops to American corporations?
    What's good about that?

    The US isn't a free market society, it's a crony capitalist society moving towards neo-feudalism. Living conditions beat those in Banana Republics/fascist dictatorships because nobody has done to the US what the US has done to those countries. Trump could end up being the first instance of a foreign power installing an incompetent, viciously corrupt leader with fascist aspirations, except he is too stupid to get anyone to follow him and it more interested in himself than any sort of political vision.... but he has definitely paved the way for a true fascist leader with real charisma-- look for that in an upcoming election.

    It has nothing to do with the type of economy the US has... the US used WWII as a springboard to global dominance, but it is already showing signs of decline. FFS people would flock to North Korea if there were better living conditions and higher salaries to be had.
     
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    was 1000 people, divide that by 50 states its 20 people a state.
    300 now, divided by 50 states, 6 people ..

    I better go out and buy some dead bolt locks just in case..
     
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  15. Kerri

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    This is pretty much dead on
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    A statement so ridiculous it was meant to be amusing

    Hispanics are caurcasian, well those of mostly spanish decent which is most.

    It only too what, 500 years in south america, a couple if thousand years in southern europe getting a better sun tan to go from northern europe looking white to a susposed different race
     
  17. scratcho

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    I'll tell you one thing about Mexicans and central americans-----THEY BUST ASS WHEN THEY'RE WORKING!! I wish we had a few. Some of those countries are so corrupt, it's a death sentence to interact with those that are supposed to be protective--the police and the Federales. They're mostly in the service of the cartels, as are the politicians.
    Costa Rica is about the only civilized country down there.
     
  18. Deidre

    Deidre Visitor

    I posted this in another thread about a similar topic, but for those of us born in the US, it's only be sheer luck. By sheer luck, I have had the luxury of a country that allows me to vote, doesn't treat me as a second class citizen because I'm a woman, doesn't starve its people, and doesn't have a dictatorship (although that's debatable depending on who you ask) And I didn't do anything to ''deserve'' this except that I was born here. That's it. So, it's odd that many US born citizens feel like they are entitled to this soil, to these laws, to the benefits of being a US citizen, simply because they were born here. And it's interesting that the immigrants need to ''prove'' something that I never had to prove. And never will have to prove. It doesn't seem right to begrudge people who because they weren't born here, have to claw their way to becoming a citizen.
     
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  19. Meliai

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    My bad, i didnt pick up on the sarcasm
     
  20. NotMyRealName

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    Oh good good. See you make it racist.

    Tell us what other shades of people will be living in these countries?
     

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