The Black Panthers

Warrior thinks this appears to be an all black forum. What a racist, doesn't like jews either by the look of it.

Hatred is born of fear and ignorance.

I admired the BPP in their time. They really tried to help people, they wanted to make the children feel proud of themselves for being what they are rather than what society tried to make them feel. At the time this was a good thing that was needed. I would love to hear from one of those children to see if it made a difference in their life, to be raised with pride in what you are instead of being made to feel inferior.

What happened later did not make a difference to the good that was done initially. I am a little old lady from Long Beach and I was there. The Black Muslims scared the hell out of me and considered me to be a "white devil". Maybe Warrior is getting them mixed up. However, this is a free country and I guess we are allowed to hate whoever we want, right?

 

You said the Black Panthers owe "Whitey" because they might have been dinner on some other Africans table. Are you aware that when many blacks came to America as slaves, they weren't exactly living the good life? America has always promised "freedom," but for slaves, America was anything but a land of freedom.

I don't agree with all of their views, but they were not black supremacists.

 

What good they did then has long been forgotten. Look at black culture now, Heros in "gangstas' small children are looking up to these people, to 50 cent! This arouses more comtempt in me than seeing a KKK meeting. Children shouldn't be exposed to shit like that.

 

I never said that negros were treated well here. I only made the assertion that had they not been brought here thier decendants would most likely be non-existant. However, I never said that they were treated badly either. I dont know how they were treated. I only know that they survived by the grace of God and through the goodness of the White race.

grendel44: If racism is born of fear and ignorance, then why am I neither? I came to my racial views through a lot (hundreds of hours) of research, so that rules out "ignorance". Fear? What is there to fear? Being ostrasized for my political/racial beliefs, maybe. But nothing else.

I am a racist (although I do prefer the term racialist - but let us not be concerned over a couple of letters). Now before you all start calling me a Klansman, Skinhead, or continue with the term Nazi, let me make it clear that I am not a member of any organization. The views and opinions I express here are my own and should not reflect on any group or organization that has beliefs similar to my own.
Also, I would like to define myself as to what "type" of racist I am. First, my racist beliefs are based on knowledge and not hate. Secondly, I believe in racial seperation. In lieu of that I want no less than equality. I oppose Affirmative Action and other programs that are racially biased against Whites. I am against my working 80+ hours per week so some minority who is perfectly capable of working can receive free housing, food stamps, cash, and medical benifits. I do not like having certain areas in my city too dangerous for me and my family to walk through because the minorites there hate Whitey. I belief that there are major differences in the races and God Himself is against race mixing.
These are some of my feelings. They are both political and religious to me. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you oppose them, than that is your right. But if I choose to live by them, then please understand, that is my right.

Back to the BPP: They wanted, (according to what I have been able to garner from the opinions of those here), pretty much what I want. But they aren't racist. According to the pro-BPP posters here, the BPP wanted something better for thier people. Why is it when minorities want better for thier people they are 'warriors for the cause'; But when Whites want better for thier people they are 'enemys of the state'?

I don't know how the system works here but I may get banned for simply posting that I am a racist. It will not surprise me as we in America do live in an anti-pro-White society. Besides, I have learned one good lesson about liberals: I don't remember whose words these are, but they tend to ring true with liberals: "There is none so intolerant as those who preach tolerance."

 

From the Black Panther Party spawned a street gang in WATTS called the "Crips". Two members of the BPP branched out and created the infamous street gang that has murdered, raped and robbed thier own race. In "self-defense" a street gang called the "Bloods" sprung up. Now, as a direct result of the BPP we have two murding gangs killing off, selling dope to, in general abusing thier own people. Hmmm...on second thought I may just well be pro-BPP. After all if they are the direct ascendants of negros who exterminate negros, than they have saved many of my White people from negros "going jungle" on them. You go, Bpp!

 

i wasn't being serious about that part dumbass.

 

Guess I missed the LOL at the end of your joke. No matter, as a liberal you still had to label me, didn't you, (Now I am 'dumbass')? Almost impossible for a liberal not to label isn't, it? I love liberals, you make me laugh.

 

That you don't like the black panthers, fine. That you are a 'racialist', fine. But I'm shocked about how you make a difference between humans in general.

I'm a 'racist' and 'seksist' myself as well if you want to call it like that: I acknowledgde the different races, like blacks, whites, asian etc.. and I see the differences between men and women as well.. but those differences are purely physical!

Skin color or the presence or a penis doesn't say anything about the person being friendly, kindhearted, selfish, ignorant, smart or whatever.

Blacks and whites are not the same (my long blond hair isn't anything like short curly black hair or the strong shiny black asian hair.. ), but we are equal! I would never talk about women or whites as 'my people' (at least not seriously).. to me the color of skin doesn't matter and since this is a hippy forum I think most of the people here think alike. What makes me wonder.. what does a person like you do here? If you don't have enough love in your heart to care for people who don't look like you?

I'm truly sorry for you that you can't see pasts someones skincolor into their soul.. 'cause that's what counts!

 

Warrior, you are one sad sad person. You would get along just great with the white supremecist gangs around where I live.

 

And just what the fuck is it that you think you are doing?? The exact same thing!

 

The Black Panthers did what they felt was right and I totally respect that.

 

So you respect nazi's and the kkk as well? 'cause I'm pretty sure they're doing what feels right to them as well..

 

its hard to compare the black panther party to the kkk and nazis... they are not even close.

 

That's not the issue here.. Lovefest states that she 'totally respects' people who are doing what feels right.. I'm only saying that kkk's and nazi's are probably doing the same: doing what feels right to them.. so I'm wondering if she 'totally respects' them as well.. or that her statement about the black panthers was kinda useless

 

The KKK and the Nazis aren't even on the same level as The Black Panthers. The panthers fought for their equal rights and they fought to survive in a time where there was only justice for white people. To even compare the KKK and the Nazis to them is just plain stupid.

 

*sigh*.. okay.. my mistake to even stop biting my tongue.. if you don't want any sense of normal logical rules of conversation then fine.. I just wonder why you have a conversation then at all..


back ontopic now

 

Velvet: There are differences between the races aside from just the physical. There are intelectual and thought process differences as well. Since we are discussing black and White, I will point out that there is a major difference in the IQs alone. The average IQ of Whites is 100, of blacks 85. Whites and blacks do not think the same, either - even with equal IQs. The two races analyse basic problems differently and arrive at completely different conclussions. Whites are emotionally more compassionate to others; blacks are more inclined towards the "me only".

soulrebel51: I probably would, as I do tend to get along well with thinking people.

Why is this, mui? What makes the beliefs of White racist less valuable than those of black racist? Why should Whites be denied the right to believe in and strive for a better world for thier people? When you consider it the White racist are more correct in wanting White racial identity in America since the White race is the developing race of this country. Now don't give me a bucnch of bull about how Whitey stold this land from the Indians. First the Indians were Asiatic in origins so they obviously migrated to this country themselves. Also, the Whites conquered this land, just as every land has been conquered at one time or another. "To the victor goes the spoils."

And today there is no justice for Whites. So there should be noone standing for the rights of Whites?

 

You actually give a shit about IQ tests? That's quite pathetic. I think it's quite difficult to have a logical conversation with you.