The biggest argument starter.

hahaha dude you know what I mean. Quit knitpickin. lol

 

what I'm getting at is most people don't even know what pregnancy is, so i just question what they are basing their opinions on. this goes for people for and against abortion. i respect all opinions, but i also think it is important to base opinions on knowledge.

 

Yeah I know what you're saying. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that I think it's wrong to abort a baby/embryo/fetus/whatever, at whatever stage of it's growth/development, because we all deserve a chance at life. I'm just basing my opinion on fairness; not science or social reasons. That is all.

 

In the early biblical days that position was extended to the point that masturbation was wrong because it wasted sperm; which were potential babies.

Topnotch, because your sister was able to carry a baby created out of rape, she is probably a stronger woman than most. Could you imagine looking at your body and watching your body grow bigger, the closer one would get to birth, the more one would be forced to remember that day when that ass stuck himself inside you when you said no. When you continued to protest and scream he probably put a sock in your mouth to keep you quite and perhaps beat you to remind you that he is in control, before finally sticking himself inside you.

If a child does not know how he or she came into this world, that child could have a normal life. The moment a child finds out that his or her conception was created out of something horrid as opposed to out of love, that child is not going to be a very happy individual.

 

Don't be so graphic man.

 

My mother had an abortion in her thirties; before she found out she was pregnant, she got x-rayed at dentist's, so the doctor at the ultrasound told her it would be the best option because of the probable mental illness the baby would have...
Even now she knows it was the best option, event though she was in great stress after making that decision....Which you would prefer - to have a mentaly ill child or not to have mentaly ill child if you had option for that?...

 

I am Pro-Choice.

You make the call.

 

Amen to that brother, amen.

 

if you have an abortion for any reason other than health/rape/incest, etc, you should be charged with felony manslaughter. that's the way i see it at least.

 

i know a guy who survived an abortion. his name is gary and he eats porkchops with a straw. what a freak.

 

manslaughter is the wrong term, your probably thinking of homicide. they are different, especially in the eyes of the law.

also, technicaly the person having the abortion is not preforming the abortion, so that charge (homicide) would not stand.

 

na what i mean is if you abort, you should be charged with some kind of crime. i would have said homocide, but homocide is pretty steep. manslaughter is still pretty serious, but less severe punishment.

 

actually i used the term wrong also. as manslaughter is a form of homicide.

i confused homicide with murder. murder is also a form of homicide.

so you would like the person charged with felony murder, not felony manslaughter.

murder entails a willful disregard to life, with an intent to kill.
manslaughter can also have an intent to kill, but with a completely different mindset than murder.

 

i understand the difference. what i'm saying is that since abortion is such a controversial subject and we don't seem to be able to agree whether a fetus or embryo is 'living' or not, then of course there is an intent to kill it, but it would be too much to actually charge somebody with murder for it.

murder is a pretty severe charge. i wouldn't want somebody to do 20yrs-life for having an abortion. i wouldnt have a problem, however, with sentencing somebody with a hefty fine and/or community service or something like that. as i understand it, many times manslaughter is due to negligence, or accidental death that could have been prevented.

i personally believe abortion to be murder, but i can't control what other people do with their bodies (nor would i ever want to). I see it as murder, but people should still have a choice.

this would also eliminate the problem of using 'abortion as birth control' which is really sick to me. sex has it's consequences. im not fond of the idea that 'it's okay to get pregnant because i can just have an abortion! woowee!' and i would hate for that idea to gain more popularity.

this is all hypothetical of course. i don't think charging people with crimes for abortion would work in the real world.

 

"Energy cannot be created nor destroyed"

We are beings of energy, when we die our spirit lives on. Love is why were here, to love eachother as ourselves. Lifes a test to show our real strength we have, after this life were all going be in God's presence. Just read near-death experiences, there REAL.

 

But in my opinion, abortion is wrong. Almost as wrong as having a child if your going to raise him/her in a fucked up lifestyle.

 

pro choice. I'mn right, your wrong. 'nuff said.

 

Yeah that's fukt up dude. I just told you my sister was raped and you're gonna get graphic like that? WTF man?

 

That's one of the cases when I would agree with abortion. If the baby would be better off non-existant, then I'm all for it.

Most women who have abortions do so for selfish reasons; because they don't want to deal with the burden of caring for a child or whatever. I mean, what's wrong with just carrying a baby for 9 months and giving it up for adoption? I am pro-choice too, and I believe it is ultimately the woman's decision, but I can't imaging being the one to choose to end a baby's life before it even begins. I just think it's cruel.

When you think about it though, every guy is committing mass murder everytime they bust a nut. lol all of those little sperm.....dead. haha

 

there are tons of argument starters. politics. religion. abortion. sexism. racism. the list goes on. as long as there are two opposing sides, and the more heated the topic, there will always be bullshit conflict and it pisses me OFF MANNNNNNN! people need to stop preaching and shoving their opinions and beliefs down people's throats. i don't know why it's so hard for people to just get along...