The big question..

We can, but with qualification. We can know that we have thought, because if we didn't, nothing we do would even be possible. We can know that by our logic, 1+1=2. We can know that we perceive certain impulses. We can't can't know if we always interpret it correctly. Especially complex signs that might seem like signals from the divine.

When I was little, my grandfather went out for a walk on this road through the woods and over a hill. I cleaned my room (parental prerequisite) and followed him, running after him until I finally saw him on the path and yelled. He turned and waved, smiling, and kept walking, and I kept running, getting no closer. I yelled again, and he turned and waved and kept walking, and this happened a couple more times. Then I got discouraged and walked home crying, only to find my grandfather, who said "What? I didn't go anywhere!"

I don't think there was a ghost or angel that looked like my grandfather trying to get me alone in the woods. I think that for some reason I saw something that was not there.

 

All depends on what you are adding!

1 sperm + 1 egg = 1 baby.

 

Genetic memory and the complexity of cells to form a cellular network within our bodies. DNA/cells read off of eachother, every person you come into contact with, you are exchanging information via the cellular network, it interacts with reality and the world around you.

This is how telepathy also takes place.

 

my dad gave me an honest answer to that one when i was quite young. i didn't like it at that time and i still don't entirely. but it is an honest answer, and that is simply that we do not know.

like so many things people cling emotionally to to try and fill the gaps. i like to dream and speculate as much as anybody, but i'm at least willing to understand that is what i'm doing when i do.

another thing he said was ask somebody who'se been there and come back.

well people have flatlined and been brought back. most of them haven't described anything very interesting. a sense of calm and peace. that's good. undifferentiated white light on all sides. that doesn't do me much for scenery.

but there IS something else. there were dreams i had BEFORE i was born. and the were of living on a tangable material world that wasn't this one.

so i have this idea of something like serial mortality. a little like reincarnation but not exactly the way that's usually taken. and possibly with some kind of rest and relaxation bardo between lives.

and the next MORTAL life could by on any world, because they all begin with being born, just like this one did. born most likely, into whatever life form on that world is analagous to our level of sentience on this one. rather then some other life form ON THIS one.

another kind of universe entirely is possible too.

maybe one where forest and mountains extend forever in all directions, so you can walk or ride trains without oceans getting in the way, or too quickly having come back on yourself.

but fantasies are fantasies, though all are possible. those of dominant beliefs though, no more so then any you or i might arrive at ourselves.

i've had a lot of dreams that could be in someplace like that. but it does still come back to that we DON'T REALLY know.

=^^=
.../\...

 

I don't agree with you saying we don't know. I believe we do know, but we can't remember because of this body we're in. It is our greatest gift, yet its our greatest restraint.

 

I have to agree with Exposed, we really do know.

 

GOOD Question well as for me this is what is going to happen to me hopely:

After a person dies their soul is led into a hall of judgment in Duat by Anubis (god of mummification) and the deceased's heart, which was the record of the morality of the owner, is weighed against a single feather representing Ma'at (the concept of truth and order). If the outcome is favorable, the deceased is taken to Osiris, god of the afterlife, in Aaru, but the demon Ammit (Eater of Hearts) – part crocodile, part lion, and part hippopotamus – destroys those hearts whom the verdict is against, leaving the owner to remain in Duat. A heart that weighed less than the feather was considered a pure heart, not weighed down by the guilt or sins of one's actions in life, resulting in a favorable verdict; a heart heavy with guilt and sin from one's life weighed more than the feather, and so the heart would be eaten by Ammit. An individual without a heart in the afterlife in essence, did not exist

 

...and outside of this room is going to be a long ass line of souls? No disrespect to your beliefs, but what happens to the other soulds "waiting in line"?

 

I'm going to express my opinion on 'life after death.' I'm still learning about these things so if I dont make much sense or if you think i'm insane then I apologise. okay!


You don't have to worry about death no heaven, no hell, no nothing, no death. Death is an illusion. We've never died, not us. Death is a process that animals go through, when their bodies die they change, degrade and feed the earth. The human body is like a shell, upon it's physical death the body is abandoned. We are consciousness, self awareness that resides inside the head, but not of it. Consciousness and the human body are both tied to each other,without one, the other will not be ( A human without consciousness is no different than an ape or a dog, and yet without a human body for consciousness to anchor to, reality as we know it would not exist.)

It's quite a challenge to know yourself as who you really are (by stripping away the identity I assumed since birth - since it's never been real ) I came to the realisation that the body i'm in is completely random, there was no particular special reason that this body was born on X day in X country to X parents - it was simply a product of reproduction. Upon realising this I took away that feeling of destiny, the feeling that X was at the center of the universe and that his life was full of destiny and deeper meaning. If X is a product of reproduction and nothing more, then so is every other human, it is not down to fate, it is a random chance. This helped me to realise that I am not a part of the body, I simply reside inside it, and this body is random. With that understanding , i strip away yet another layer - the memories and beliefs I held when I thought I was human, I willingly started from the beginning again ,without the constraints and beliefs that were a part of the identity i'd falsely believed to be me.

What did this leave me with? Consciousness and the feeling of being self aware of my true nature, - that of being simply the feeling of existing inside of a physical body. We are all this awareness of being, every human shares this awareness, because it is us. When humans are very young children , the brain still hasn't fully developed yet, therefore consciousness can not manifest properly, I believe this is why we do not remember much of being young children ( and , obviously, of being 'born' since it was only the body that was born,not consciousness which manifests afterwards.)

With the knowledge that we are all one thing, one stream of super consciousness that has manifested into billions of human heads after they are born- We can erase the ties we have held to our false selves - personality, individuality and separation, and explore our true nature fully. Death, and the fear of it, become simply an illusion, a belief held by consciousness that is not aware of it's own true nature because it has separated itself from super consciousness and become the human body that it inhabits.

As long as humans exist consciousness will too. Past lives aren't really relevant at all, because all that connects body to body is the feeling of consciousness, no aspects of personality or individuality are carried on because they never existed in the first place, they are illusions that consciousness creates when it is unaware of it's own nature ( and so separates itself and assumes humanity.)

I feel wide awake now, nothing at all worries me anymore. I have unlocked the full potential of this body that I am in. I hope you can make sense of what I've said - If not, then don't worry, we all come to our own truths in time.

 

Watch out for that cliff!

 

Embrace the freeing power of humility!

There are literally hundreds of different and distinct religions and cults on Earth today (and many, many varying personal spiritual beliefs that fit no specific frame). Nearly ever one of these claim unique knowledge of a reality beyond the realms of science. To accept any one of them as absolute truth is to have no humility. The same can be said of insisting that any one of these religious/spiritual theories are impossible. I don't think we can KNOW these things.

I'm not saying there's no need to fear death. All sane people do, and should. However, I find the alternative of pretending to have superpowers an irresponsible position for adults to take.

My answer to the big question is:

"I dunno. Let's talk about something else"

Peacelove,
Aldousage

 

I don't fear death, death is an illusion. Am I insane? Would I be considered insane by an expert? I doubt it. I'm completely aware of the nature of reality.

 

I don't like to call anyone insane. Who knows? Maybe I'm the nut here. I accept that.

However, it does seem irrational to ME to suggest that death is illusury. Is life an illusion also? Could not your (mis)perceptions be the illusion/delusion? Which seems more likely?

If I crush a bug beneath my foot, are my senses revealing truth in their adding to my perception of the insect's subsequent death? Or is it more reasonable to assume that the crushed bug is "faking it"?

I feel near-certain that death is not make believe, but I can appreciate the poetic charm of your statement.

Respectfully,
Aldousage

 

Well if one is to believe (as I do) that we are the consciousness that resides inside the human body, but not a part of it, then yes, death is an illusion based upon the belief that we are all mortal beings. It is a false 'self' where we assume an identity based upon reality that we perceive to be true ( that we are the body, rather than metaphysical consciousness), therefore we have a name, an identity, a job, likes ,dislikes, selfishness and desire. From this, stereotyping, sexism, racism, homophobia, greed and war are then created also , because we have seperated ourselves from universal consciousness. This identification of the false self increases unconsciousness and unawareness of our true self (the oneness of universal consciousness) and so the dream continues, as does the fear of death.

And I understand about the insane thing, truthfully before I was awake I thought I might have been crazy, because I thought (and still do) think about things so deeply that it's very difficult to relate to others around me. This is all a part of awakening though, I can only become more 'insane' as I progress further.

 

kaminoishiki, how can you believe this with the question of the universe? Where was it created? A mere illusion? Maybe, but then how do I not have the ability to end the illusion. Often I close my eyes and tell myself to wake up, yet I am always in the same place. How did this place come to be if all that exists is conciousness?

 

My beliefs don't oppose anything already proven by science. I'm not a religious person who believes the universe came from a guy called God. Ask a scientist how the universe came to be,his answer is probably the most logical and reasonable one to assume. However, logically, the universe as humans know it would not exist if humans were not conscious, as humans are the only animal evolved enough to even conceive of something so vast as the universe. Take away consciousness, and there is no knowledge of universe, no knowledge of anything outside of the basic animal instincts, thus 'reality' as is currently being perceived by humans would not exist. So , in essesence, it is because of consciousness that humans are able to be aware of the universe.

When I use the term awakening, I am not refering to the universe being an illusion. I was referring to the fact that I have become aware that I am consciousness itself , not Mr X born on X day of X year who likes such and such a thing and who works in such and such an occupation, this is the self built around objective consciousness, that I am this body, rather than the awareness that resides inside it, this is the false reality.

 

Than consciousness would be seperate. So why would consciousness die with the body?

Doesn't make sense to me. Sounds like our bodies are just vehicles for consciousness to experience reality.

GASP, COULD IT BE?

A SOUL?

OH NOOO

 

Bl4ck3n3D, you already know truth, what's with the sarcasm?
Do you like to use the word soul? I don't use that word, it has too many different meanings, I just use the word awareness.

 

I like throwing in some humour once in awhile, I don't know, I see it as humour but it might not seem like that to others.

Sometimes being serious isn't always the best way of communicating, haha, idk, I'm just trying to add flavor I guess?

 

lol okay I'd like to talk with you some more, you seem interesting and your body is a similar age to mine too!