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All im saying is the gods that created us, should not be associated with the drive and force that is behind the creation of the universe. We are all part of it, nothing is supreme except the universe itself.

 

this is an interesting debate...so far science is winning. oh and i really dont care what blacks or jews are or where they came from or what the fuck a grail is. jews where branded jews and killed because of religion. grail is god related and therefore, is irrelevant to anything and most likely not real.

 

umm.. there is no evidence that shows you are right.. therem ight be osome that show other peole believe it.. but not that shows you're right.
this is all another common human charactersitc surfacing again: we want to believe in a greater being that made us.
well, there isn't one.. its assuming yes.. but it is right. maybe no way to prove it.. and thats how humans go about making theories and stupid religious belifs.. since there is no way to prove it they make a nice long story about how god created everything.
well the thing is.. people are too smart... but also dumber than they think they are. we make up all this stuff about god creating.. or being the universe, when we should jsut face the fact that there is no god and just live and die. stop trying to feel important and stop trying to make ourselves seem like we were put on earth for a reason. we were lucky that earth can sustain life. thats all there is to it.

 

the holy grail is related to jesus, who himself said "Do not worship God, Do not pray in a temple, for the temple is inside of you." I agree religion fucked up the world, as well politics which when combined = our modern world. Also, you should realize jews and blacks are one in the same people, they both come from the same source. You say the grail is God related, yes related to these deities in which people worship, who are infact not God, but merely supreme beings.

 

and all im saying is, there is no god. people will always believe in a god, but they should just stop.

 

As we are, God once was. As God is, we will become.

This is not God as in the creator Gods, the gods the religions beleive (Annunaki), but the energy and force of the universe, the true essence.

Like i said i am not religious, i maintain a certain ideology.

 

then why call the energy 'god'

 

You gotta be specific Chicago Typewriter, what was written down wrong? The Old Testament, New Testament? Talmud? Koran? What about the god of eastern religions? Like the hindu concept of brahman, the supreme creator whos manifested in endless ways and images. Every religion has morsels of truth, masked in lies and propaganda. You want beleivers to prove whats right, and were doing so by showing you SCRIPTURES. Show me a written scripture of Atheism, prior to the 18th century. There WERE NONE. What ancient people made him up? Your taking too much of an anthropological approach. Ancient cultures were supposedly more spiritually advance than we are today. Prior to scripture there was oral traditions, practicing Shamanism and Animism. Beliefs that all life on Earth, had individual spirits that would live and die and be recycled to one another, just like the water system of earth. Then using psychoactives, fasting, meditation, etc the Shaman could unite his own spirit with these other spirits of all aspects of life and find some truth in it. Is this the god you claim to be false? This is the god of the way ancients, prior to language. Now if you want to talk language you have to start in Sumeria, with cuneiform, and the Astronaut aliens, that spliced our dna, accelerated our brain capacity thousands of years on the evolutionary scale. Even the English word EArth contains echoes of these gods one being Enki, another version of his name is EA. Then found its way to greek I believe and got that suffix, Im pretty sure it remained the same ever since. EARTH ENKIS CONTROL. Research the Annunaki, reasearch enki vs enlil. This will show you where alot of confusion came from. Of course its confusing trying to imagine some invisible god made us out of nothing. The planet evolved, animals evolved, and even we evolved to a point.

You can't say theres no god, because it its lowest point god can just mean safety and security. Its a mish mash of words, and race wars, and regular wars, and slavery, and who controls the past controls the future. Nothing can be knowen unless you study all the social sciences, history, and linguistics, and religion then unite them all and form your own opinion.

 

be more specific?
ok
No religion should exist. everyy single belief in any religion is wrong. fake. stupid.
human beings jsut want somethign to believe in.. there is as much chance i will ocnvince you as you will convince me. so prettym uch 0%. but i stand by my statements.

 

be more specific about what? Your right, no religion should exist, because the worship of Gods is wrong. It causes wars, just like this akhenaten guy said. Only modern religion shouldnt exist.

So if i create the perfect religion, where the is no war, no poverty, no suffering, and every member becomes more enlightened than our present state, it is wrong?

 

be more specific about what? Your right, no religion should exist, because the worship of Gods is wrong. It causes wars, just like this akhenaten guy said. Only modern religion shouldnt exist.

So if i create the perfect religion, where the is no war, no poverty, no suffering, and every member becomes more enlightened than our present state, it is wrong?

Just because people worship God, doesn't mean they can't live good lives. All im saying is you should recognize a supreme force, being God, that which is responsible for you, and recognize the rest of humanity as being part of the same thing.

 

whats the base of the religion.. if it is worshiping a make believe thing, it really shouldnt exist.. it might make world peace, who knows.. but we can all agree, no religion at all also would have a great shot at peace.

 

i don;t think there is a supreme force in that way.. all i beleive is we are here for no real reason. we were created by chance, not on purpose, and there is no all mighty being that is watching us or that created us.

 

well, im gonna go to bed.. i will go lay down on my bed, which i am going to start calling god.. so i will go sleep on my god and lay my head on my pillow, which is also gonna be called god. and pull my sheets.. also gods, over me. godnight. not a typo.

 

The basis of religion is nothing more than a basic set of ideologies. If you say there is no religion, only a set of idealogies, you cant base it on the fact that we happened by chance. You can't say chance gave us human emotion, or mushrooms, or psychadelic experiences. You can't say by chance that we have peace and love and no wars if this religion were to actually manifest. You cant manifest ideologies for this peace and war you speak of if religion didnt exist without having something greater than yourself enabling you to think of these in the first place.

 

Now your just being childish.

 

long arguement, i almost left but i saw your post. well i still am gonna say, there is no god. religion is still stupid, and always will be. and for childish, i am only 17, remember..

godspeed.

 

So kill yourself, your preaching a negative approach to life. Vindicating death as the ultimate. So just do it man tie the fuckin noose, and drop. Its about feeling and all that gay feminine shit you dont wanna hear. Its about one love, and universal conciousness. A positive view of something, even if that view IS that this world is evil and dirty and corrupt. You've never seen evidence of human pure essence of a human soul? What about people that sacrifice their lives to save others. Are they just stupid? Who knows if animals belive in the creator? Who cares is what your basically saying. BUT YOUR NOT. YOUR CONFUSED YOUR HEAR STARTING THIS CRAP, JUST TO BE THE OPPOSITE BOY. You obviously are interested in higher powers if you are thinking about them. Why don't you just make your next post about counter strike source. Totally just destroy the topic, and throw some stupid material shit in its place. You just sound like a poser atheist, that just cries to get attention still. You wouldn't be here studying why god does or doesn';t exist if something isnt driving you to do so. You'd be playing video games right now, not worrying and thinking of this stuff. Obviously youve awakened this conciousness though, and a higher being is trying to get through to you.

 

ya you are 17, which is why you don't still have time to gain more knowledge.

 

All in all yer fuckin up Chi Town, call up ya boy Kanye and see if he can drop some jesus walks shit on you.