The Anyone But Trump Movement

^^^ Pretty sure that's the Republican "policy"

 

As a practical matter, yes. There are several other parties--that don't have a real chance. Why is that? Partly because the playing field is rigged against them by the states which are controlled by the two majors. They set a high bar for getting onto the ballot. And there's the electoral college with winner take all and single member, winner-take- all congressional districts. But another factor is that the other parties so far don't seem to have anything to offer that a majority of Americans find attractive. The two most credible are the Libertarian Party and the Green Party. The former offers us extreme rugged individualism and limited government, and has been particularly thin on foreign policy. It's presidential candidate last time, Gary ("What is Aleppo?") Johnson seemed unable to name foreign leaders or events. Its endorsement of liberalization of marijuana laws, long the big attraction for the left wing of the party, has been co-opted by mainstream politicians from the majors. The Green Party offers a blend of environmentalism and anti-nuclear policy that doesn't speak to the main bread and butter economic issues of greatest concern to Americans. Their candidate, Jill Stein, didn't help herself by her photo op in Moscow at the table with Putin and General Flynn. She was there protesting US HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS! The U.S. is a large, diversified country, requiring national parties that are capable of aggregating a variety of issues into a winning package. The end products are unlikely to appeal to ideologues, but it's unlikely ideologues can win elections.

It's conceivable that could change. The Republicans might split into an Old Guard fiscally conservative--strong national defense party, on the one hand, and a Nativist-isolationist party reminiscent of the Know Nothings of the nineteenth century, on the other. The Democrats might divide into the Progressive Social Democrats and the moderates. That would give us a four-party system that seems better to correspond to current political realities.

 

You make a good point. The first thing that come to mind concerning that scenario is Governing Coalition, meaning enough numbers to get into power? My primary desire in this election cycle is power for the people, because the Republicans are committing crimes to prevent people from voting, as in the North Dakota Indian Reservation address requirement, and North Carolina ballots collected and filled by Republican staff. I also need to mention in Kansas people with Spanish names were kicked off the roster. And in Wisconsin and Georgia the purge is over a million names. Voters must now go to the relevant office and prove their residency and more. Many Homeless people don't know they have a right to vote. In Colorado, you don't need an apartment or home ownership to vote. If you have an address at the local homeless shelter to receive your mail, then you can vote. In Colorado secretary of state Scott Gessler had a purge. He kicked off 1448 Mexican and Muslim names off the roster who were registered Democrats and only 91 White Christian named Republicans. The voters saw that as one sided. Also in Colorado, the Head Honcho at the Republican Party in Weld County got caught voting twice for Trump, because he forged his wife's signature on a second ballot. He ended up in prison. In Larimer County Colorado the Republican Head Honcho got caught for embezzlement or some sort of financial Shenanigans. He too was convicted and had to pay a fine and restitution. Scott Gessler the secretary of state held a fund raiser for him in the state office building. Democrats and all good people need to understand that Republicans will not be deterred by any criminal law statute in the event it gets in their way.

 

What's the given/official reason for that action?

 

A purge … of people he thinks should not vote. But keep in mind, in most Republican controlled states, they don't notify the person up front before purging them. What they do is purge them first the wait until the last minute before the registration deadline then send out a letter to the last known address. So, if you moved to live with your brother after loss of employment, you find out too late that you cannot vote. You have to fix it after the fact. It's a creative way to exclude minorities from voting. They screw you first without prior notification then you have to do the repair.

 

That is not true. Gessler sent letters to voters who on their drivers licence application showed they were not citizens, The letter asked the registered voters to confirm their citizenship. Many non-citizens voluntarily removed themselves from the rolls. Gessler never removed or threatened to remove anyone from the voter rolls. The left complained he was trying to purge the voting.

do you think people who are not citizens should be allowed to vote?

 

Indeed they are. They both want policies that determine how each of us is to live. For them government is for expanding into every corner of the lives of the population. Neither can explain how they plan to pay for the grand dream. Because money and finance are so simple anyone can do it. Even a bartender!

 

What you say is only true in part. Anyway, I knew you were one of them.

 

Yeah, their plans are so far fetched every other first world country in the world has figured out how to do pull them off.

Dont yall get tired of repeating these talking points.

 

Money is so complicated only Donald Trump can do it. And now I leave you to your nightmares.

 

Right, so the nation that sits on top of the rest of them, is somehow doing it all wrong.

I guess that's the part I find so puzzling. Watching the press go all weepy over that Iranian terror commander's overdue demise was comical, watching lawmakers do it was rather revolting.

At some point they have to put the Trump nonsense aside and focus on what the country does effectively; eliminate assholes from the planet. . GW was our last hired thug (Obama did it by remote control, so he's not a thug). Talent is talent.

 

China?

 

As if. The one thing they do well is raid the US patent gazette. Their primary means of innovation is parasitic. In terms of carriers, China is on par with Italy, with 2 (double what Russia has!) The US has a measly 11, in service.

Why? Because protection of the world's ocean commerce ultimately falls to the US. Consider the effect restricting them from the middle east had on the rise of east African pirates. And they were using speed boats to steal oil tankers and container ships. Tough people to be sure.

One thing China discovered the hard way is that exploiting Africa's resources is not as simple as just building cities and moving in.

 

I was meaning more in terms of economy (tho totally joking. Place is a 3rd world humanitarian disaster) but even their GDP is light years behind ours. I keep hearing how China has overtaken us as a world power but I'm not seeing it

 

You're right, America's healthcare system is amazing. Why would Sanders and Warren try to fix something that ain't broken?

U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World

 

Of course not, they are behind the curve for as long as they fail to innovate on their own. For that, they'll need freedom they don't currently allow. You can't starve or beat a person into designing the latest processor chip. However, you can starve and beat the people who actually have to make them!

 

Fixed

 

Lol

In which decade are you living?

Their mission in Afghanistan went very effectively indeed lol. IS is on the rise again too. Partly because of how the US left Syria.

 

Also this is gross
You're entitled to your own priorities but not everyone is going to take pride in being from a country that prioritizes warmongering over investing in its own citizens

 

Most of the medical innovation is still here, but population has pushed us into an impossible situation. The failure of the ACA was inevitable since the country does not have enough doctors, nurses or hospital beds for everyone. Which makes the system grossly unfair overall. But I remember a time when HIV and cancer were death sentences.

I can't imagine Sanders or Warren fixing anything since they can do no wrong. However, I do think Sanders is a lot more honest than Warren. I think she's just another wealthy money grabber who wants to be a power grabber and will say or do anything to get there.