The "9/11 ISN'T a conspiracy" conspiracy!

Yeah, ok, just ignore everything I said, and call me and others cereal brand names...

 

I noticed that many skeptics concerning this type of debate, never go into why your arguments are wrong. When they have nothing else to say, they just make fun of you, then escape the debate. Meanwhile, fluffing up their feathers behind the computer feeling as though they won the debate.

Some people just aren't interested in debating, nor are they interested in finding the truth. They are just interested in their own views of the truth and nothing more. If that weren't the case, then why leave the debates by being rude and obnoxious, especially when good points are brought up? They do debate for some time. But once you bring up some good points, they are never heard from again. So you are just left behind, standing with your balls out, waiting patiently for that gentle breeze to cup your testicles - wait, what?

 

Wow, I'm convinced. you people are so smart. Your astounding intellectual talent in uncoverring hidden meanings between 100s of facts without the need to find any causal links just proves you are far superior to us naive conformist squares who cannot think outside of cereal boxes.

 

You just did it again.

Congratulations.

I don't see how there is any 'hidden meaning' behind those documents. It seems pretty obvious what was going on. The government wanted to stage a TERRORIST ACT on its own soil. The only thing that prevented such a thing from happening was due to the president putting a stop to it, and we all know what happened to him. This proves, pretty clearly, that the government is capable of such a deed, which only furthers the credibility of 9/11 being a staged terrorist attack.

When evidence doesn't all add up, it becomes evidence on its own.


Again, it's pretty clear. The only difference between then and now is 50 years in between.

 

"When evidence doesn't all add up, it becomes evidence on its own."
No it doesn't, it means you aren't certain what happenned.

 

Are you ...eh well wait you are so no need asking, but you do realize that I provided lots of links to the facts in previous pages, you just, OMG CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM!!! Now that is the real conspiracy, why you people refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Could it be that your a group fo people who does NOT WANT to see the facts, because they dont fit into your quazi-reality?

 

Could you explain this more please? You don't really make sense, :\

 

I didn't ignore them. The evidence just isn't all to convincing, and that could be said on both 'sides' of the story.

None of it adds up.


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If evidence doesn't add up, then it shows that further investigation is needed. It proves that there is something suspicious, so you continue looking. That is what I meant by my one-liner.

If you want the truth, you don't goto a single site that 'exposes the truth', because who really knows how accurate their information is, what are their sources?

Why does the government refuse a second inspection of the WTC collapse? If it'll help to ease peoples worries, then its the governments job to obey. I mean.... doesn't the government work for us? If we can spend billions on the Iraq war, we can spend some money to put peoples minds at ease. After all, going to war is done for the peoples benefit... right? Anyway... this brings me back to my past point: "When evidence doesn't all add up, it becomes evidence on its own." Why would they refuse a second investigation? Seems pretty odd to me. I thought that we should "never forget".

 

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Oh man, that interview gave me a headache.

Jesse's reaction was very strange.

I'll say this, though:

Opie, or Anythony, dunno who it was...:

He was saying how they could have just put bombs within the building, and just kill people that way. But if there was a conspiracy, people wouldn't just go through all that trouble just to kill thousands of people for no reason. There would have to be a reason for going through all that trouble. Well, if we say that terrorists did it, we then create an enemy. Suddenly, all of America is looking to the middle east as the source of all our problems (Which lead to hatred of Islam). Doing that can successfully create a scapegoat, while whatever, or whomever can do what they want to do.

I don't think this has anything to do with the government itself, really.

They went into how it's impossible to keep things secret. There is a lot of truth to that, but that isn't a proof that it can't be done. You can say that Spitzer's sercrets were out in the open, but look how long it took for that to come out... out of no where, no less. Anyway, just as easily secrets can be revealed, secrets can remain secrets. I barely know the secrets within my family.... sometimes you don't even know the secrets of your very own best friend.

If you deny anything enough times, you can prevent people from looking any further.

Evidence could be right out there, in our faces, but all you really have to do is deny it as lunacy and everyone just agrees and you're off the hook.

 

I AM A VOLUNTEER FIRE FIGHTER WHERE I LIVE.

AND IM ONLY GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE SO LISTEN THE FUCK UP.

I watched and re-watched the videos of the towers falling and the concrete was detonated. Anybody who knows anything about fire's the way they burn and and explosives can tell you this.

Do the research it's not fucking rocket science. It's thousands of fucking tons of concrete turned literally to fucking dust in a matter of seconds. The pancake/accordean effect makes no sense. NONE. it would take several minutes for one floor to collapse in the next the fire to heat and tear away the next and then fall to the next and so on... ya follow?

like when you cook eggs or something notice how your cooking surface cools off when you drop your food for a few seconds? same idea...

one floor would go bam on the next it would take several minutes for the blaze to tear away the new floor then bam then burn the next then bam and so on... this process if it did start happening would take hours and days NOT seconds.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.

And FYI... The same company that trucked away all the debris from Ground Zero was the same that pulled away the debris from the Oklahoma City Bombing.

In my opinion who ever doesnt belive 9/11 is a conspiracy is just completly ignorant.

 

Eh, I reccomend watching the movie Zeitgeist, it was in fact detonated, and not only that, the beams built up through the center of the building to help it withstand something like aircraft impact, were cut with thermite, leaving molten pools of metals in the basements.

Don't believe it?

From the tower site:


That's basic demolition work, right there.

 

You are completely clueless.

 

Agreed, see the picture above.. Buckled.. Haha. Sorry buddy, but he's right, you're clueless, burning jet fueld doesn't cut metal at that angle.. It's not even hot enough to DO that kind of damage.. The only thing that could cause the kind of damage that was done to those beams, is thermite.. Oh well, not everyone can live with their eyes open..

 

It means you don't know the answer. If I presented to an equation involving riemannian harmonics you would not know the answer because you do not have a PHD in theoretical physics. If you don't know why a chunk of metal snapped at a certain angle it means you don't know, not "JEWS DID 9/11".

I can't explain any clearer than that.

 

9/11 Was an Inside Job. Period.

 

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but if you are serious... maybe there is hope for sanity!

The Mushroom Man

 

First can you even explain what building 7 was used for?

prolly not

But lets say building 7 was a controlled explosion, What reason would they have to destroy THIS building ALONG with the towers?

Was building 7 also a "integral" piece of this conspiracy or was the "New world order" or the "illuminati" or whoever the conspiracy theorist are trying to pen it on this week just trying to "sneak" another building into the chaos for the hell of it?

Oh and just to cover my bases

I still think a plane hit the pentagon

 

Ok I listened the fuck up and turns out you sound like ever other 911 conspiracy theorist.

Who cares who you claim to be? You're just repeating the same conspiracy theory hearsay as everybody else. Tell me, as a volunteer firefighter in Canada, what do you know about 767s crashing into 110 storey buildings? Or about demolishing 110 storey steel frame buildings? My guess is no more than anyone else. So you can forget trying to intimidate anyone with your "expertise".

Are you aware of the difference between a static and a dynamic load?

I challenge you to provide any evidence the beams were there to deal with aircraft impact

Nobody anywhere uses thermite for demolitions. It is very slow, very cumbersome, and very difficult to make it cut horizontally. Plus it makes huge showers of flying sparks which are pretty easily spotted.

Why would thermite leave molten pools of metal in the basement? It doesn't liquefy the entire beam. This makes no sense. All you are doing is repeating things you read on conspiracy websites.

These were cut by torches as part of the collapse pile cleanup. Its no coincidence it is on the top part of a beam sticking out of the ground.

No, you can do that with a cutting torch. Its all detailed here, and if you can't handle that there's lot of 911 conspiracy websites that are embarrassed by this thermite cutting theory and think its deliberate misinformation.

This is about the most convincing, best researched, and most logically presented argument I have ever heard for 911 conspiracy theories, which say a lot.

 

The twin towers were hit by Directed Energy Weapons.


There were no planes that hit them, they were only holograms.


These are all applications of NASA's HAARP project.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=151&Itemid=60

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=60


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