Thank You very much Donald Trump!!!

Edit, responding to that toxicity isnt worth it. It's obvious to anyone capable of critical thought that 6 wouldnt need to resort to so many straw mans, irrelevant conclusions, and ad hominems if he actually had a real argument.
And memes like the NPC thing are just modern logical fallacies. You dont ever have to listen to anyone you disagree with or give their points any sort of consideration when you can just shut them down with the NPC meme.
Which really makes those who use the meme the ultimate NPCs lol.

 

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Or is was more about capitalism and the rise of proto-socialism and economic ideas opposed to slavery. I mean in the end it wasn’t so much feeling for poor souls that clinched the deal up the huge monetary compensation given to the slave owners.

Anyway – I ask again – what is the argument?

Are you implying that because slavery happened, it happened - that although slavery was bad it did happen and although it isn’t fine now if it happened then that’s it, it’s all over and we should just forget it and accept statues that celibate slavers and slavery?

Sorry but what is you end argument here?

 

There's the problem. You're relying on your faulty memory. Fortunately, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, you don't have to do that. You can go back and check the original statements. Start with post # 287 where I said: "In the ancient world, Cyrus the Great, a Persian Zoroastrian, took the lead in combating slavery." That's all. Does taking the lead in combating slavery mean the same to you as permanently getting rid of it in Persia? Next, we have Post # 335:"Cyrus the Great, in the famous Cyrus cylinder, abolished slavery of non-combatants and freed the slaves of Babylon. Zoroastrian religion explicitly prohibited slavery, and the Persepolis archives indicate that much of the labor that would have been done in other countries like Greece by slaves was done in Persia by paid labor." Again, true statements, and nothing claiming that he ended it forever and ever in Persia until the Arabs came. It is worth noting that neither the Quakers nor Wilberforce got rid of it either, and it took a bloody Civil War decades later to end it in the U.S.

As I mentioned in Post#335: "The soul, in the sense of the incorporeal essence of a living being, seems to have been accepted by the ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, and Hindus"--all notorious slave societies. The big advance came with the idea that having a soul gave people a claim to being treated with respect and dignity. This breakthrough seems to have happened during the Axial age, and can be seen in the Upanishads and the Avesta, as well as Judeo-Christian scriptures. But those had been around for centuries, while slavery and inhumanity continued. Some conquistadors and slavers claiming to be Christians advanced the convenient notion that some humans (Africans and Indians) didn't have them, but that wasn't the prevailing teaching of the churches. Otherwise, they wouldn't have sent hundreds of missionaries to the New World to convert the heathen. Dominicans, early on, protested the vicious treatment of the indigenous peoples, and Pope Paul III made it official for the Catholic Church in 1537 in the encyclical Sublimus Deus that Native Americans have souls. That recognition, however, didn't prevent the Spaniards from mistreating them, nor in importing African slaves to the Spanish colonies. Empathy is a trait found even in non-human species, but in humans it can be countered by malignant ideologies and interests.

 

I wonder what the Romans thought of all those roads. Is the Via Appia also "socialist" ?

I get a chuckle out of the "socialist" US highway system. As if saying "well the roads are socialist, so the people should be too" .

Laughable.

 

That seems rather arbitrary but cool, we'll go with it.
If gathering taxes to pay for roads isnt socialist than neither is gathering taxes to pay for healthcare.

 

socialism
/ˈsəʊʃəlɪz(ə)m/

noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

 

Correct, Webster.
What we're really talking about here is a mixed economy.

But as we all know, a lot of our favorite right wing NPC members like to conveniently ignore the reality of the mixed economy so they can place anyone who believes in universal healthcare and a well funded education system in the same camp with Stalin and Castro

 

Cyrus The Great freed the Hebrews from Babylon in around 705BC. Slavery in the Muslim (Arab & Persian world was banned around 600AD. After 622AD they compiled the Koranic texts with specific rules on the emancipation of slaves. Slavery from that part of the world usually occurred as a result of war.

 

Sounds like when the Capitalist go and buy PUBLIC STOCK and government Bonds.

 

Yep...when I was young I had just the spitoon I inherited from my grandfather. A metal turtle that lifted its shell when one stepped on the head. Just right for bizarre right wing gobs and drizzle.

 

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Please note Zoroastrianism is older than Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. So their governance of such societal matters reaches back to the farthest of civil society.

 

And the Merchant Marines had to do their work unarmed, because their ships were unarmed. They were easy targets for German U-Boats.

 

Did you look this up all by yourself? or did somebody have to help you...

 

Oh, brother, storm. What "Koranic texts"? Please document any general emancipation of slaves in the canon or theology of Islam .... stick with Sunni or Shiite please. You could not be more wrong. I wonder what sort of bone-headed prescriptions for the present danger you come up with based on such ill-conceived notions.

Do you have any idea of why France took over Algeria? Why Thomas Jefferson paid millions for defense but not a penny for tribute? For the better part of 1000 years well into the 19th century, the forces of Islam- with the blessing of their clerics were taking slaves from the Mediterranean and as far away as Ireland. During that same time, Arab slave traders provided millions of slaves to the Middle East. They left little trace, as the men were castrated.