As long as we have to have another puppet leader, I'm just thankful that at least, this one can string an entire sentence together that actually makes sense. The rest, all remains to be seen.
Completely untrue. I believe there is a Masonic lodge in every country in the world. However it might be every country involved in the U.N. cant particularly remember right now. Although I do know there are plenty of lodges in Egypt who's roots are notedly black . YOU SIR ARE COMPLETELY BATTY!!! Bush and Bush JR. are both masons... Both attend the Bohemian Grove and have given lakeside chats there. In fact if you do research well there have been only 2 presidents that were not masons and openly against freemasonry. Take as guess as to which two... As for the other organization I have never heard of it. However I would not doubt HHB's research. In my dealings with him and pressed rat they are both much more knowledgeable than I...
Back to the original message of this thread. Whatever the future holds, whether Obama turns out to be a good, bad or just a figurehead president, thank God the Bush administration is done. We've endured eight long years of this crap and finally we can start putting it behind us. The reign of error is over. Bush was the worst president I've seen, and I lived through Nixon.
Exactly for me when anyone says thank god it's over I think of Bush. I think that's why millions of people braved the cold.
Probably, but since I can't be at the Bohemian Grove and I know no one that has. I have to accept what the official Masonic website says about their membership. And according to them Gerald Ford was the last one of 14 presidents that were masons.
nice..... the people fall for the same empty rhetoric of change, hope, and whatever else they want to hear... and when change is promised, no change is made. and the people fall for the same words all over again as the world burns. The same words are said by the next new puppet- peace, land, and bread, and in the end, the same result. The only people that will bring about real positive change are you and me. The changes will happen when the people are the leaders and the politicians and pundits are the followers- not the other way around. I am cautiously optimistic... but I am pretty sure I know what's gonna really happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez5robAWmu4
But you could be saying the exact same thing when it comes time for Obama to leave office... if he leaves office and doesn't become dictator.
Isn't that what I just said? Whatever the future holds, whether Obama turns out to be a good, bad or just a figurehead president...
You, sir, are an idiot. Our forefathers founded this country seeking freedom from the socialists in London. OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST!!!!!! Lincoln, FDR, Washington, Adams, Jefferson and all the rest of the old fellas are turning, rolling, weeping in their graves at the sad state that America became last november. We shall be lucky if big government doesn't destroy america in the next 4 years. God Bless Sarah Palin and for the sake of America let's get her in the Oval Office in 2012 I don't put a lot of thought or faith into horoscopes or crystal balls or any of that prediction crap. But it has been said that Nostradamus has predited many things like the Nazis and the Black Plague, things that were terrible parts of history. He also predicted a downfall of a great empire. Maybe he was talking about Barack Obama's term in the Oval Office. Could it be that America is about to fall? May God help us all!!
CANT YOU TELL ITS ALL HIS PREDICTION ARE GENERAL!!! they can mean anything!! he also stole things from the bible! read revelations for once! or five times
Well, Bush is out of office. What do we do now? I mean, a lot of what has happened in the counterculture in the last 8 years can in some way be linked to Bush. The war in Iraq will be over by 2011 or earlier. Gitmo is being shuttered, along with Bush's "death camps" in Europe. Afganistan will probably end sometime in the next 2 years. And there is no chance in the next 4 years that another conservative will bein the supreme court. So, what do we do now?
RE: Obama officially orders Gitmo closure ^This takes me to PrisonPlanet, not RawStory. Alex is an idiot, thanks for the cool link.
CELEBRATE! But stay vigilant. Cut up our credit cards and try to hang on to your home and job. Buy American and make or offer something America can sell.
Thank you Gardener! I started this thread as a celebration and some tried to turn it into a funeral! Long Live Hope!!!:hurray:
Your thread got hijacked early. I tried to start another one for those of us with hope. But it didn't catch on. So decided to try and respond to this one the way most of us feel right now. It's more about hope than change. Hope more than the fear we've all felt for the last 8 years may bring huge changes.
Obama - No More Torture, Close Gitmo, review cases of men locked up for years without Habeas Corpus, fund stem cell research, open government records, move on helping Americans find jobs - and on and on. Thank you Obama - thank you America!!
Yeah a lot more in three days than Bush offered us in 8 years. And now the courts have shut down the sale of park lands in Utah to petroleum interests. I have a lot to be thankful for by this election.
no no wait.. he has a point. Let the madness escalate until the point of such ridiculousness that we'll either have a big time change or die out. At least it'll be OVER. (or can we take more?)