Texas is still at it

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TheMadcapSyd, May 18, 2010.

  1. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Also individual you know nothing of life and survival of the fittest, you lived in an extremely rich country and probably had god knows what amount of privlage and/or luck. If you want to try survival of the fittest and that's life, deal with it or end it mantra, might I try going to live a month in Somalia, Niger, Chad, Uganda, among others.

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    Also, this, Individual won't watch it so I leave it for other people:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFU2O_UP_2c"]YouTube- The One Percent Jamie Johnson 1 of 8
    "The One Percent", a documentary from 4 years ago about the growing wealth gap between America's richest citizens and the citizenry as a whole.
     
  2. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    I don't know the percentages, but I have known many people over the years who worked hard labor every day and had to get food stamps and/or AFDC so their children could eat every day because their employers were too damn stingy to pay a decent wage. In this respect, it's the greed of the capitalists that makes the welfare system necessary.

    Anyone know a Waffle House waitress who can afford to eat 3 squares a day without food stamps? My wife worked at the Waffle House while she had cancer in order to help pay the bills, and I can tell you that the richest lay down the least in tips.

    So, Individual, can you justify a person who has a terminal illness having to work such a difficult job for so little in order to get by? You asked why I have such disdain for the rich, this is part of it.

    And, to fill in some more of my personal info: My father was wealthy, until he had serious heart problems and had to spend that wealth after Blue Cross canceled his policy. My brother is wealthy and wouldn't give a man dying of thirst a drink of water for free; he'd tell him to get a job and pay for it himself.

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  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    He did, did you miss his "we live in a survival of the fittest society, if you can't make it in life, end life" quote. He really thinks he lives in a survival of the fittest society, and that the best way to strengthen a chain, vs strengthening the weakest link, is to kill the weakest link. Shit though, if all those poor people died, who would make the wealth, you know that wealth that the top 10% control near 85-90% of the wealth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
    Do some reading
     
  4. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    That would be the stock broker with his pen vs. the short order cook with his cleaver. My money's on the cook. If the poor ever do rise up, the bankers will be scraped off their floors.

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  5. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    We're each entitled to an opinion, your's appears to be based more on anger than rational thought. If an individual is sick and needs care that is more expensive than the individual can afford, would it be okay if that person just found someone who was wealthy and stole some money from him, if only just enough to cover his bills? If not, why then would it be okay to allow government to do essentially the same and call it okay?

    You may not be complaining about what I have, but you are complaining about what you don't have and trying to blame me and others for that. It should be obvious that we live in a world where some people are better than others, some richer, some poorer, some more intelligent, some less intelligent, some greedy, some envious. We are not equals, and in life we have to accept the fact that our "right" to live extends only to the point that we can exercise it individually. Rights are not derived from others, and government should not be used as an excuse to create rights simply by allowing the passage of laws which infringe on the rights of some in order to provide for the desires of others by calling them rights.
     
  6. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Indie

    Rhetorical claptrap.

    Who judges who is ‘better’?

    Why are some ‘rich’ and others ‘poor’?

    How is a persons supposed ‘intelligence’ calculated?

    What is your definition of greed and envy in this context?

    How is ‘equality’ judged and by whom?

    Once again Indie you’re churning out meaningless slogans.
     
  7. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    It would be pointless for me to answer your questions as you obviously hold what you accept to be the correct answers. The main point to be made is that we do not all think alike, especially in relation to questions that have no absolute or finite answers.
     
  8. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    To the contrary. I have no complaints for myself. What's done is done. My home is modest, but paid for, as is my vehicle. The VA takes care of my medical care and SS pays me enough to live on each month. I live in the middle of the forest surrounded by trees and hills, so I don't have to associate with assholes like you but once every couple of weeks when I go shopping. The only people who come down my very long driveway, besides friends, are missionaries who are met with a .38 and choose to leave immediately. I have good friends who visit often and I visit them as well.

    With the exception of the 4 years of my wife's cancer and her death, my life has been excellent. I don't cry for myself, I hurt for those around me who are suffering. Unlike you, I understand the pain of others, I truly empathize with those who suffer needlessly. Unlike you, I judge people by their intrinsic qualities, not their balance sheet.

    Years ago, when my life was at it's lowest and I was about to loose the last of my life, I asked my wealthy brother for help, and was shunned. It was my friends, the ones who have next to nothing, who came to my rescue. Their help was a great burden for them, but would have been less than pocket change for my brother. One of my poor friends is worth far more than a hundred of my wealthy brother.

    As for you, I truly feel sorry for you. In the 70 some years of your life you still haven't learned the true meaning of human existence. A man's true value lies not in his bank account, but in his character.

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  9. scratcho

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    I only read the last page. I don't have to read much more to know that individual is a manifestation of the sickness that can and often does affect those Darwinists that have a propensity to think numbers make the measure of a human. It's plain and simple=I have mine and I don't care about anyone else. Born in the wrong time and place? Tough shit. Can't afford health care. Die then. The human characteristics of altruism,love of humanity, of caring for those less fortunate than themselves ,has been wrung from their souls. It is obvious to me what capitalism can do to such wretched people that go thru life this way. It's shown every day around the world in our politics, in our daily lives and will not change. The fatal flaw in human nature -greed-the crass casualness and disdain with which those with much ,think of those with little ,is basically leading us to doom in the end.
     
  10. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    The funny thing about social darwanism is Darwin himself didn't see it as practical. Darwin was also a scientist though and realized the difference between true genetic weakness and economic weakness, one is a matter of biology, another is a matter of man made circumstances. Darwin only refers to biology.

     
  11. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    The concept holds,at least for me.[​IMG]
     
  12. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Yes, I would have no problem with that.

    Never steal anything you don't need. But if you have true need of it, and someone has no need, take that shit.

    It would be quite different if there was not enough to go around, but there's plenty, it's just mostly been stolen by a few people. Take it back. You said, "rights are not derived from others", but you think it's ok for those others to steal rights?
     
  13. scratcho

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    All rights are defined by others. Always been that way--always will.
     
  14. JackFlash

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    We have this one guy in our neighborhood who inherited a big chunk of change, he's a lot like Individual. He bought the biggest lot and built a big log cabin. He's always trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives, so nobody likes him. That log cabin would make a big stack of firewood. We've been waiting for him to go on vacation.

    Seriously though, the rich need to be concerned. There is an uprising coming if the income gap keeps getting worse; and don't expect the cops to be overly concerned either, they make less than most others.

    The next "run on the banks" will be with torches and dynamite.

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  15. boredpsycho

    boredpsycho resident grammar nazi

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    *skims article*

    :banghead:

    yes indeed. fuck 'em hard, especially the attractive women.
     
  16. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Well America does have a lot of attractive women, we got that going for us.


    I also support runs on the bank armed with dynamite.
     
  17. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Right.

    You mean the vile succubi?

    If you're forgetting, we're now teaching that christianity is at the heart of all freedom, and christianity teaches that women are at the heart of all sin.... soooooo...... Yep, by proxy, schools are going to be teaching that women are at the heart of all sin, and that otherwise, we wouldn't be free.
     
  18. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Right-on brother.
    Maybe one day we will all come together and get past our differences and take back what is ours. When that happens:
    WATCH THE FUCK OUT!!
     
  19. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    You present yourself as a passionate, and empathetic person, who "judges" people on their intrinsic qualities and have little more than condemnation for those who do not subscribe to your philosophy. You are willing to give up choices in life for both yourself those who disagree with you to a government bureaucracy in order to have your philosophy imposed on all.
    I can't respond to the actions of your brother, as I don't know his side of the story. Perhaps he had good reason for his inaction?
    The "true" meaning of human existence? I'm sure you have a definition, and would love to impose it on all. Character is not built through force. Government action which mandates what you might call good character, or morality, does not unite but instead divides a society.
    Man created God because it was obvious that would eventually rebel against laws they saw as oppressive to them which were created by other humans. Gods are beyond reproach, therefore useful. Look at Islam, the believers and even the non-believers are cautious to not disobey what they are told is expected of them by the Quran in the name of Allah as passed to them through Muhammad.
    You tend to focus on money as the source of all assistance, and ignore the fact that many of us who have little monetary resources often do provide assistance in other ways.
     
  20. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    I expect such a day will come. History repeats, only the weapons change.
     

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