Terrorists Execute U.S. Hostage

It truly amazes me that in the wake of another beheading intended to inflame the US public and galvanize this very sort of public outrage and calls for more severe repercussions - which was duly shown to very likely be a complete fabrication by western intelligence agents or these unaccountable contract mercenaries we have over there in abundance - and after more than a year of repeated revelations of lie after lie put into media channels by the administration and its INC puppets, there has not been one person willing to suggest that this too is likely another blazingly emotive event blamed on AL Qaeda without any shred of proof of who truly pepretrated the act.

Think about my friends, It isnt some wildly convoluted concept to equally suppose that these random acts are being committed by those whose vested interests depend upon keeping the flames of war fanned. There are hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into the MIC and other corporate sector hangers on, profits they havent seen for more than a decade.

And we have more than sufficient revelation of the extent to which Washington is prepared to go to extend its war agendas (namely the Pentagon Papers) to know that changes of administration do not alter the operative thinking of the core institutions (CIA, NSA, DIA, Pentagon) which drive our wartime policymaking.

Who stands to gain the most from knee-jerk sensationalism and the resulting calls for revenge?

With a press ready to publish whatever it is fed without any real investigative effort, how easy would it be for any agency (including our own) to simply claim to be Al Qaeda over the phone to a few news services. Once the claim is released on the wires it takes on a life of its own and that is precisely how most of the initial claims against Saddam in support of the immediate necessity for war came to be accepted as truth before finally being confirmed as false.

Remember that the first casualty of any war is the truth and at least stop to consider that with so many vested interests profitting so heartily out of all this that we have agencies perfectly willing to sacrifice the odd person (yes even our own citizens) or group to advance what they deem to be "in the greater good".

 

everything bad that happens in the world is caused by a small group of white americans right

this doesnt seem very likely to me and seems to be a extreamly racist outlook

its like saying that arabs arnt human just puppets

filmed beheading have been moving around islamic circles for at least 20 years that I know of ,the last couple are kinda tame compared to the ones that came out of algeria

are the americans using mercenarys to do all this stuff and pretending to be devout muslims it seems very unlikely to me

but yes islam means peace doesnt it and brown people cant do any wrong they are just victims of the nasty west right

whats makes me sick is how the left have made alliences with these bastards
the far left in particular
apart from anything they should have learned from what happened to them during the iranian revolution which started out as a combined operation between communists and islamists to get rid of the shah and then when the islamists got power they slaughtered all the left wingers


THE BLACK-RED ALLIANCE
by Amir Taheri
June 10, 2004

When the US-led coalition invaded Iraq in March 2003, few would have imagined that the move might lead to the formation of an alliance between the radical Left and hard-line Islamists in Western Europe. But this is precisely what happened.

In this month's election for a new European Parliament, voters in several European Union countries, notably France and Britain, are offered common lists of Islamist and leftist candidates, often hidden under bland labels.

Europe's moribund extreme Left has found a new lease on life thanks to hundreds of young Muslim militants recruited from the poor suburbs of Paris and the Islamic ghettos of northern England.

The Islamist groups, for their part, are learning many tricks from the Left about how to exploit the inevitable weaknesses of an open society.

In Britain, the new Marxist-Islamist alliance is the offspring of the so-called anti-war coalition set up two years ago to prevent the liberation of Iraq. The coalition has a steering committee of 33 members. Of these, 18 come from various hard Left groups: communists, Trotskyites, Maoists, and Castroists. Three others belong to the radical wing of the Labor party. There are also eight radical Islamists. The remaining four are leftist ecologists known as Watermelons (Green outside, red inside). The chairman of the coalition is one Andrew Murray, a former employee of the Soviet Novosty Agency and leader of the British Communist Party. Co-chair is Muhammad Asalm Ijaz of the London Council of Mosques.

A prominent member is George Galloway, recently excluded from the Labor party, who is under investigation for the illegal receipt of funds from Saddam Hussein. Galloway heads a list of candidates backed by several radical leftist groups, notably The British Socialist Workers Party (SWP), as well as the Muslim Association of Britain, the British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and a dozen Palestinian groups financed by Yasser Arafat.

The Palestinian checkered headgear, worn by the leftists as a cache-col, has become the symbol of this left-Islamist alliance.

The New Statesman, the organ of the British moderate Left, calls the new Islamist-Marxist alliance "Saddam's Own Party." The label is not fanciful. Many of the groups involved in the alliance had been financed for years by Saddam through his so-called Cultural Relations Office in London.

IN FRANCE the radical Left alliance of Revolutionary Communist League (LCR) and Workers' Struggle (LO) groups counts on Islamist militants to help it win seats in the European Parliament.
Arlette Laguillere, the pasionaria of the Workers' Struggle, claims that "the struggle for Palestine" is now an integral part of the "global proletarian revolution."

Similar Marxist-Islamist alliances have been formed in Belgium and Germany, where the Muslim Brotherhood itself has been taken over by radicals sympathetic to al-Qaida.

Talks are underway for holding a pan-European conference next year to give the Marxist-Islamist alliance permanent organizational structures.

The European Marxist-Islamist coalition does not offer a coherent political platform. Its ideology is built around three themes: hatred of the United States, the dream of wiping Israel off the map, and the hoped-for collapse of the global economic system.

Europe's hard Left sees Muslims as the new under-class in the continent.

"Are these not the new slaves?" asks Olivier Besanconneau, leader of the French Trotskyites. "Is it not natural that they should unite with the working class to destroy the capitalist system?"

The idea of an alliance with Islamists has even seduced the more traditional French Communist Party (PCF), which commissioned a study of the possibilities of electoral alliances with Muslim organizations.

The Islamists, for their part, are attracted to the European hard Left because of its professed hatred of the United States and Israel.

"We say to anyone who hates the Americans and wants to throw the Jews out of Palestine: ahlan wa sahlan (welcome)," quipped Abu-Hamza al-Masri, the British Islamist firebrand who is awaiting extradition to the US on various criminal charges. "The Prophet teaches that we could ally ourselves even with the atheists if it helps us destroy [the] enemy."

The first to advocate a leftist-Islamist alliance against Western democracies was Ayman Al Zawahiri, al-Qaida's #2. In a message to al-Qaida sympathizers in Britain in August 2002, he urged them to seek allies among "any movement that opposes America, even atheists."

The idea has received support from Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, the Venezuelan terrorist known as Carlos the Jackal. In his book Revolutionary Islam, published in Paris last year, Carlos, who says he has converted to Islam, claims he has advised Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaida leader, to forge an alliance with "all guerrilla, terrorist, and other revolutionary groups throughout the world, regardless of their religious or ideological beliefs."

Carlos says Islam is the only force capable of persuading large numbers of people to become "volunteers" for suicide attacks against the US. "Only a coalition of Marxists and Islamists can destroy the US," he says.

Europe must wake up to the dangers that this new version of the red-and-black alliance poses to its democracy, indeed to its political and social peace.



The writer, an Iranian author and journalist, is editor of the Paris-based Politique Internationale


well Im outta here and off to stonehenge

 

What do you expect? He's sixteen. A lot of kids that age say whatever they hear without forming their own opinion.

No offense to anyone else who's sixteen or younger, it was a comment about Maverick.

 

I was just about to write that until I read your post and it was better than what I planned!

This is all propoganda as far I'm concerned. All this shit is used to fan the flames of war, to enrage us so when they want to raid the muslim countries we can say "Well, they killed an American".

I agree. This is bullshit in it's worst.

I don't believe he or that other guy got killed; it's a trick.

 

maverick seems to understand this better than you guys Im as you will notice 39 so Im 19 years older than you

I agree with him and I could fill this thread with people brought up in the middle east or pakistan or Iran that also think islam sucks all brought up as muslims some in their 60s

"That is about the most ignorant unamerican statement I have ever heard. Way to be a hipocrite yourself by being discriminatory against an entire faith."

why cant a american or anyone else say he thinks a particular religion sucks
...Islam sucks ... and just because a things popular and a fifth of the world is really gullible doesnt mean you cant say it sucks

the problem we have is people havnt been critical enough
thuggee was a religion they used to strangle people .

Islam claims to be the ideal world political system therefore its involved in politics so we should feel free to be as critical as we like

the person behind this ideal political system is the prophet mohammed

if the historical record says he was pond scum we should say it very loud and not give a damn about annoying people just as you would if you had a political leader that was pond scum

 

Dude, just about every history of any major religion in the world has been drenched in bigotry and blood, in particular Islam and Christianity since they are the most widespread. And yes, Islam emerged first as a warrior religion. But that was back in the Middle Ages. Apart from the minority of Neanderthal fundamentalists we call terrorists, the average Muslim today will tend to be peaceful as anyone else. Islam does have a violent history. But they're in no way alone amongst the major religions. So don't speak as if they're the only religion that's had a violent past - that's the stuff that has fueled religious wars for millennia. I'm not in support of Islamist governments or anything, I think all religions should stay the hell out of government.

Perhaps this is ironic in contrast with today... way back in the day, it was the Islamic Arab society that was the relatively enlightened one, with advances in medicine, science, exploring, what-have-you, while Christian Europe was stumbling around in the Dark Ages under the thumb of uber-dogmatic Augustinian Catholicism. Sometime later though, a conservative movement would transform the Arab world into just as closed a society as Old Christian Europe was.

I've lived for a couple years, as a kid, in Riyadh (Saudi Arabia's capital) when my dad was an ex-pat close to a decade ago. So I've seen a society as conservative as it can get. But violent isn't the word that comes to mind... it's spoiled rather. The Saudis are generally nice people, like just about any other people, but they're pretty damn decadent and horribly spoiled by a corrupt welfare system.

 

What's the Difference between Conservatives, World Leaders, American Liberals, and the liberal media?


Conservatives --- One beheading is enough to out-rage them. {Daniel Pearl}

World leaders --- Three beheadings is enough to out-rage them. {Pearl, Berg, and now Johnson -- they are saying they are out-raged}

American liberals -- the number of beheadings necessary to out-rage them is yet to be determined.

liberal media --- They are out raged that Ann Coulter, Matt Drudge, and Rush Limbaugh are not beheaded.

 

lucifer sam Im in a rush so cant answer fully

couple of things

if you add to the thousands of westerners that have taken the trouble to train in terrorist training camps in places like afghanistan the millions that contribute to jihadi charitys you do not have a minority of muslims even in the west that support terrorism

if your american you will have noticed a group called cair they put adverts on american tv campaigning that islam is a religion of peace, the only problem for me is top people in what is supposed to a grouping of moderate muslims keep geting arrested for terrorism and organising jihad , buying arms caches

and this same thing seems to be happening all over the world

when I come back will deal with some of the other points you bring up

 

LickHERish you need to stop watching Michael Moore movies.

 

You could produce some numbers and facts... there are lots of Muslims out there.

Basically I'm just against singling out people based on faith, and demonizing religions. It smacks of a crusade mentality to me. It's not because I'm particularly protective of religion itself or anything, for the record I'm pretty cynical of any religion and I think it'd do the world good if we stopped taking organized religion so seriously (puts on flame-retardant poncho) and kept it on an individualist level. I'm just not for singling out Islam as the one wicked faith in the world.

To me, just about all major faiths can and have been easily twisted for power and money. And the three faiths that are most involved in this latest war all have their share of nutjobs who deserve to be smacked. Christians have their fundamentalists, and TV evangelist idiots like Jerry Falwell (since they generally live in wealthy countries, they're content enough to just rant at the rest of us, and dupe gullible people into sending them money). The Jews have the Ultra-Orthodox, who are at the center of dogmatic Zionist politics and are a major obstacle to any hope of peace in that region, though they claim to be the reason why Israel exists. Hell, they often the most vocal supporters of Israeli militant policy, and yet they claim exemption from military service themselves. The sooner Israel loses those Neanderthals, the better. And of course, the Muslims have the fundamentalist terrorists. If you think about these three groups, the Muslim fundamentalists tend to come out of the harshest and poorest backgrounds, and so I think it's easier to understand why so many of them have turned to militarism. I'm not condoning it at all. I'm just saying, if we were a poor and desperate nation paranoid of foreign influence, I wouldn't be surprised if Christian fundamentalist militants popped up.

 

Niraj, you need to gain some years of experience, observation and a legitimate basis for comprehending half of what is really going on the world. I don't need Michael Moore or any film maker to enlighten me to the actualities of power politics and the truth of what our leaders are up to, it's my job to stay infomred of such matters.

Now turn off the tele and go do some actual research into the points raised, you just might learn something.

 

...and therefore whatever crackpot conspiracy theory you propose has to be true?

Get a grip, Al Queda cuts peoples heads off. If you are too far in denial to accept something as simple as this then you really are the definition of the useful idiot.

 

let's all remember it was a knife that took his head. so like cutting a piece of bread the killed him. not a single fast cut of a sword. all i have to say is ouch.

 

And warmongering governments fabricate events, censor or otherwise santise/de-contextualise information, and lie repeatedly (more lies ready to cover those which are exposed).

In this WoT, the preponderance of lies (including the now debunked attempt to frame "terrorists" for the killing of Berg) have already shown this Bush admin to be utterly suspect in any further claims with which it seeks to snow the public.

Once again, stop being so gullible and go do some real research into the nature of US MIC thinking which has remained entirely in keeping with the revelations contained in the Pentagon Papers to this day.

If there be any in denial it would be those who continue to defend this cabal of neo-imperialist liars.

 

So you're saying that EVERY muslim person is part of Al Qeada?

If thats the case, then i suppose every christian in this world is part of the KKK too, since most of them are christian extremists. Are we to ASSume that every time a clan member has killed or beaten a black man that it's the fault of the entire religious community?

 

i thought the kkk hated christians. who do they hate then? can i get a list. i want to be on their hate list like they're on mine.

 

The KKK hates Catholics, like most other Christian denominations. They themselves are Baptist ot Protestant I believe.

 

so they are hardcore christians. hate everyone but themselves. obsess the bible and follow everything it says even the stuff that contradicts itself. it like a group of corrupted, evil ned flanders.

 

Heh, evil Ned Flanders......

But yeah, the KKK is really an example of how fundamentalism of anything, no matter how good or right it's intentions are, can be bad. They're really not much different from the terrorists, except rednecks are too chicken shit to go into a black neighborhood to kill blacks.

 

Moonshyne, how in anyway did he say that? You need to just stop talking.