Telemarketing

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Mr. Mojo Risin', Jun 14, 2009.

  1. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Oh yeah, I was gonna mention that. Is there an hourly wage? If not, you're going to get fucked.

    I don't know if I'd rather work in fast food, though.
     
  2. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    uh-huh...see that's cool thing about the internet, you can make shit up to build yourself into the person you'd really like to be. You know, instead of an immature little opinionated prick who doesn't really know shit about the world because he's too much of a pussy to leave the house.
     
  3. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Even if he does live with mommy and daddy, there's really nothing wrong with that. He's only 22.....
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    There's nothing wrong with that but it's true you can be a bit more picky if you still live at home :D

    I feel kind of the same way, I'm not a workshy hippie but I rather be unemployed than working in telemarketing. I think this has a lot to do with it though:

    And I'm really not the right kind of person for this job. If you're good at it perhaps it become more fun though. I wouldn't work in a fastfood restaurant neither but I think sooner than this job. It's just really not for me!
     
  5. HawaiianEye

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    I don't know much about telemarketing jobs except their turn-over rate is very high.In other words about 90 percent of people do not stay in that type of job over a week or 2.--They will probably hire anyone and everyone that applies.This shows that telemarketing is a very bad job(scam) ---In the states there is a 'no telemarketing list'--it's great.It's illegal for telemarketers to call phone numbers registered on that list.--The state of Hawaii is very good about going after companies that break the law and call someone on that list.--Mojo,you seem like an intelligent,creative guy(in other words the opposite of the type of person that does that job.).I say wait for a better job.--BTW I didn't even know they have telemarketing scams in Europe.
     
  6. TheChaosFactor

    TheChaosFactor Senior Member

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    First of all, companies that pay commission only have minimum wage shortfalls, meaning if your commission doesnt' equal minimum wage, they'll pay the difference. Which is still shit, but at least you don't get ripped off and work for no money.

    Telemarketing jobs are only stressful if you let them be. I don't know hardly anybody who's ever been fired for low performance at my telemarketing jobs and I've been doing it for 5 years. Maybe 15% of the people that leave, leave that way. They set the bar at unreachable levels most places. For instance say the goal is 15 sales a month. They probably only want 8. But if they tell you 8, you'll get 7 or 8. If they tell you 15, you'll get 10.

    Get it? Hope so. The money is generally fantastic at telemarketing jobs, but some of those require experience. Never really more than 1 year exp for most of my jobs and I was making 30k+ pretty much everywhere I went after my first 2 years.

    Now I've got an interview lined up for a job at 14.25 plus commission, requiring only minimal experience with no outbound calling necessary.

    Not bragging, just saying. If you can handle rejection well and not take it personal, sales can get your bank account looking real nice along with your resume. And if you can sell, you can make money in any economy.
     
  7. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

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    I thought the 'no telemarketing list' put alot of them out of business.--I'm on that list,so is everyone I know-and we never get those calls anymore.
     
  8. TheChaosFactor

    TheChaosFactor Senior Member

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    Anybody you do business with, has the right to call. It's a clause.

    Also a lot of places have switched to a sort of marketing program. ValPak fliers for inbound calls, internet surveys for outbound leads, etc. They find a way.

    And they typically pay pretty well. The ones that are inbound calls only are the super sweet jobs. Just so you know.
     
  9. Enraged Angel

    Enraged Angel Banned

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    I have for the past three years... I like it. Lots of oppertunity for money

    :D
     
  10. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Any sales job can make your wallet fat.

    But at the same rate, any sales job - especially the ones where you can earn a lot - will drain you mentally and, quite often, require you to leave all morals at the door.

    Customer support/sales on inbound calls are not what I'd call "super sweet" :tongue: But they're allright - there's a reason I'm able to sit and post on these forums all day, amongst other slack-off activities.
     
  11. HawaiianEye

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    I have no problem with the 'inbound' call places,in a way I would not even say an inbound call center is telemarketing,after all people choose to call them.
     
  12. TheChaosFactor

    TheChaosFactor Senior Member

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    Some people call it that, but I think by definition it doesn't qualify as telemarketing because they're paper marketing for telephone calls about products.

    But yes, they are the "good" inside sales jobs, for sure.

    And Jimmy, again, I've never really seen people fired for failing to meet quotas at inside sales jobs. I'm sure outside sales is different, and especially car sales and things like that. But these jobs usually have such a high turnover rate that if you just show up every day and try hard they'll keep you on the pay roll. Stress free.

    It's only stress if you let it be stress. Otherwise it's 8 hours of socializing with people around you for money. And you can always find a plethora of drugs at these places.
     
  13. Enraged Angel

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    I would have to agree it can be a lot of pressure, but in the sense it's mentally stressing, it's not physically, some people can deal with metal stress, some can take physical.

    It is definately not for everyone.

    Yes it does. I'm good too, always have been. I have my days where I hate it, but who doesn't think that way about their job?

    I've come to find that here, it's not too bad.

    Yea, a lot of people think it's a bullshit job, where you don't do shit, but telemarketers help the economy... sales are the world. it's what makes the world go around honestly.

    I like it, it's what I do right now, I take calls, make money and sit on here... I get paid pretty okay too... 10/hr pluss my commisions... wich average about 100 every two weeks... I couldn't see myself enjoying any other job... when I wake up I rarely say I don't want to go to work...
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    I think you guys are forgetting that the OP lives in fucking Estonia. I don't think that there will be any minimum wage compensation or stuff like that.
     
  15. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    I'd be willing to bet that the situation is better, both wage-wise and rights-wise(in the work place), in Estonia than in the US.

    I know what you mean TCF, people don't get fired from these things unless they do not sell anything at all - it's all right in that aspect, but the job itself sucks balls, and then there's the whole "forget there's such a thing as ethics" issue which doesn't work out for me. But they will always hassle and push you to sell, and unless you're fairly relaxed about it all, realizing they won't fire you, it can be extremely mentally strenuous for many people, even nagging at you when you're off work.
     
  16. BraveSirRubin

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    It's a somewhat poor ex-soviet kinda place.

    So I highly, highly, highly, highly doubt it.
     
  17. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    They've been part of the European Union for five years, which means lots of nice rules and regs, and their economy grew tremendously after that. Not that poor, as it turns out.

    Apparently they're doing best out of all ex-soviet countries.
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    Well, judging the countries by the CIA Factbook... Estonia entered a recession in mid-2008. There in strong inflation (10.4%). A -3% GDP... only $21,200 per capita... The U.S. on the other hand still has a positive GDP growth rate (1.3%), twice the GDP per capita, a slightly higher unemployment rate, but a much lower inflation rate (4.2%)... and so on and so forth. The U.S. is obviously the economical stronghold, and the fact that the GDP per capita is twice as high, together with the rates of inflation, the U.S. minimum wage worker makes probably twice as much as the Estonian minimum wage worker. (Not twice as many dollars, but twice as much considering what the money can buy)

    Plus... Estonia's minimum wage is 278 Euros per month (2008)... while the U.S. minimum wage is $7.25 per hour (federal), which translates to around 4214 Euros per month (on a 5 day, 40 hour week).
     
  19. scratcho

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    They irritate the shit outta me-I like to ask 'em if they like apples.If they say yes ,I say Fuck you--how do like them apples?However,people have to make a living--so whatever.
     
  20. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    That's a shocker with the minimum wage. I just found that the average wage is around 700 euros which is still peanuts.

    I guess I look at the $5-6/hour min wage in the US and it just seems like it's so... little. And from what I can tell, you've got close to zero rights as a worker in the US, whereas Estonia is EU regulated, hence the assumption..

    And I've met a few Estonians traveling and who lived in the UK, so I figured the country must be doing all right by now. Guess not.
     
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