Teh suck... read if you're into 2c-e

I don't know why you would be skeptical about a substance that used to make me so sick that even the slightest movement during the come up would have me heaving on the spot; being nauseous from anything all the time alone can cause ulcers. Most people I have talked to experience some degree of nausea, most of them on doses about half of what was normal for me. Vomiting constantly can weaken all of the tissue around your diaphragm and into your esophagus. 25 mg trips were the lowest I used to go, 3 or so times a week for a while. There was never one time where I didn't violently puke from those trips, and that includes violent dry heaves. I would usually not eat for a whole weekend at a time, maybe a sub or something. BUT, like I said on top of that I used to have a big blunt habit which also weakens the sphincter where your stomach and esophagus meet. The writing's on the wall , anybody who's living the lifestyle I used to is in danger of running into gastric problems. Of course not everybody is going to develop these problems from 2c-e, just a warning to those who think too much of everything is never enough... they might end up needing a miracle to feel normal again.

 

Sorry 2ces, but I´ve come to the conclusion, that you´ve developed a serious drug problem. Or what else would you say to someone, who exessively (ab)uses a drug, although he has mayor problems during the trips and continues the (ab)use, although knowing, that he´ll get sick!?

For heaven´s sake, 2ces, stop all drugs for at least a couple of months and see a therapeut!
I told you, when you began that 2C-E orgy, that you´ll get into trouble with that, and I was right. Sorry if I´m preaching, but this should also be an example for all the other guys around here, who´re searching for the ultimate kick. Never loose control, or the drug will control you!

No matter, if the 2C-E is really responsible for your current problem or not: don´t overlook the warnings, your body gives you.
It´s not too late, 2ces, but you´ll have to pull the emergency brake right now!

 

lol I appreciate the advice but I stopped taking drugs as soon as I got sick. The only drug problem is that I can't take them. I don't need 'therapy' I need an operation that will pull my stomach out of my throat back to where it belongs.

 

O.K., now here´s my advice as a physician:
If possible, avoid this operation. Sounds to me, that some surgeons just want to take a chance to improve their techniques or make some fast money...
Until proven 100% necessary, there are several alternatives to an operation. First you should try a symptomatical therapy with meds. Studies have shown, that people with diaphragmatical hernia also react good to learning correct relaxation techniques.
Avoid to eat at least 4 hours before going to bed and do not drink during the last 2 hours, this will take the pressure from your gastro-oesophageal passway and most probably reduce your problems.
Get some functional pics of your gastrointestinal system, meaning, that the pics should be taken while your inner organs are at work, this can maybe show other reasons for your current problems (maybe an MRT or a functional Tomography (fT) can reveal more...
Hundreds of thousands of people become operated every year, without having tried all non-invasive alternatives. Go see another specialist for a second opinion (or even better: 2 specialists - one surgeon and one internal physician... they´ll see your problems from completely different points of view!).

 

Oh, I almost forgot:

In some countries (incl. Canada) a new treatment for gastro-oesophageal insufficience has been established. They let you swallow a gastroscope which also has some electrodes at its top. With some electricity (100% painless!) they stimulate your upper gastric sphincter muscle, which will let you regain almost 100% of the original function. It won´t cure your hernia, but lots of people live with that problem. But your oesophagus will be protected against the HCl from your stomach...

 

props, flow!

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My PCP was trying to tell me not to get it (My new PCP who I believe doesn't realize I have been going back and forth between doctors for a year now). But laparasopic procedure looks good to me. I haven't gotten to see a surgeon or even talk to the GI doctor about the procedure yet, I've just been doing my own research before my July 26th appointment with the GI doc.

I've taken Prilosec on 2 occassions (like the full period you take it not just popped a couple lol) didn't do shit now I am doing my third it still isn't doing shit for what I feel. Also taking prescribed zantac 150 mg pills every night. At one point I had cut down to only eating salads and drinking milk and water. I'm pretty much at that point still except sometimes I just don't give a fuck and every now and then eat a few chips and salsa or some spaghetti lol. It doesn't make the feeling worse so I say fuck it. Most people don't actually feel the hernia I've been told they just get heartburn really bad. I do not get heartburn much if at all; I feel something in my throat and my upper abdomen sticks out. I am pretty skinny but the top of my abdomen just sticks out, it looks fuckin stupid. There is no way in hell that I am going to deal with this for the rest of my life. I will deal with slitting my wrists before that happens. IDK if you knew this but I am only 20 years old. Living at least 30 years with this is about as appealing as getting ass fucked everyday by bubba at county.

I've had upper GI's with the barium swallows (I think that's what you mean by MRT but I'm not sure). At this point I am sick of trying all this bullshit that doesn't work. Like I said most people are quick to say avoid the operation take this pill that pill, stress-relief, eat better etc. because most people with the hiatal hernia just get heartburn. nothing is going to pull my stomach back down out of my esophagus except an operation. Laparascopic procedure is minimally invasive and the recovery period is short FWIU. Let me know what you think. On top of that I know a vet who got the procedure in like 70 or 71 and went to nam a few weeks later. I doubt that was even with laparascope. My pcp was trying to tell me it's a six month to year recovery period.

To add, I can't even swallow properly. My esophagus doesn't fully contract or whatever.

 

MRT means Magnet Resonance Tomography. Barium swallows is not bad, but it doesn´t reveal all.

What you wrote last sounds to me like an oesophagitis. One doesn´t see that very often, esp not at your age. If I had to treat that, I´d first stop all mechanical stress to your oesophagus. That means that you must not eat for at least a week. To do that, you´ll need intravenous nutrition during that time, which should be done at a hospital. Besides that, you´ll need an antiinflammatory medication (applied both local and systematically).
If this doesn´t help, you should maybe think about the operation.
Oh, btw: I don´t want to scare you with this, but has a tumor already been excluded by diagnostics?

 

No nothing has been excluded man they don't take me seriously. It took dam near a year of me dealing with this for them to tell me I have a hiatal hernia. You can see my upper abdomen bulging and I have been complaining about the feeling in my throat since the beginning. "Nothing's swollen" "Minor heartburn" over and over and over. A hiatal hernia is not heartburn and vice versa. One doesn't cause the other either. It's fuckin aggrivating they act like it's no big deal then when I tell them it is, they say shit like "why do I get the impression that you always worry about things?" dude. I don't worry about anything, except my health when I am feeling all fucked up like this. Even then it's not on my mind much, I'd be a nervous wreck if it was I wouldn't even be able to work most likely. Because of it pushing on my diaphragm I get pains elsewhere in my abdomen, and sometimes I can only take short breaths. I actually think something more serious is wrong with me because I sometimes get muscle spasms, urinary retention, and all kinds of fucked up stuff with my bowels. The urinary retention is painful and I am positive it is not psychological. I can feel what seems to be the whole area tensed up. and when I can finally piss it usually dribbles out or squirts all weird like I been banging for hours. I thought for a second I might have a neuromuscular disorder or muscular disorder where my body's sphincters aren't working properly. But I don't know, the only thing that's actually been found is the hernia. I guess everything else could be stress on my body due to it.

 

Maybe try a diet, which excludes all kinds of acids in your meals. This also means, no kind of lemonade (acids included in the conservation additives and of course in the CO2), no fresh fruits and vegetables and some more unpleasant restrictions. A diet counselor may help you making a plan for this diet, which should last for 1-2 weeks. And get some "Maaloxan"-syrup or sth alike (aluminium-hydroxide), it will help you neutralizing the HCl from your tummy.

 

Oh, I almost forgot:

There´s an accupressure point for stomach pain, which you might want to try. Look at the inner side of one of your under arms (if you´re right handed, the left arm will work better). Identify the two long ligaments of your under arm. The point you´re looking for is located between these two ligaments, 4 finger-thicks proximal from your hand roots. Press gently with the thumb of your other hands, try different intensities, maybe use slight rotations.

 

I know this thread is old as heck, but...

My wife and I both obtained beautiful ulcers from an EXTREMELY insane over indulgence of ketamine...

Though the months spent in the hole were glorius, we both ended up eating zantac like it was candy..

 

Yea that sucks I have reflux 24/7 all the way up to my collar bones, i can't even swallow properly.

 

yo i kno what ur goin thru man, i was also diagnoised with a hiatal hernia. and i have also been a avid user of 2ce and other misc. drugs, it sucks ass yo, my GI doc. said i would have to have the surgery cuz a change in my diet wouldnt help me