Taxes

Perhaps you took this as me saying YOU were a coward?

I would have thought that 'the more intelligent people' would understand the language they are conversing in...

Let me help you out some...

That statement is a conditional statement... IF YOU use anonymity to attack someone, that makes YOU a coward.

If you DON'T use anonymity to attack people, then you aren't a coward (at least about that).

I am sorry if I didnt take the time to spell that out clearly enough for those that are 'more intelligent'....

 

It will never be fair for one person to pay more than the other for any reason.

 

Yet you think its fair that one person profits off the efforts of many?

 

So my boss shouldn't make more than I do?

 

He shouldn't be profitting more from your efforts then you are.

Take as an example a farm.

If the work on a farm doesnt get done, the farm doesnt produce.

As a farm owner, either I do all the work, or I get others to do some of it.

While I could find people who are desperate enough to take a small wage and do what I want, pocket the difference between what their efforts earn the farm and what they get paid... should I?

If I can't do all the work myself, I need them to get it done... just as they need me to supply the work... that should be a partnership.... Shouldn't it?

If I could find 20 people to work for 1$/day, I could become rich off their efforts in a short time... Should I though?

If everyone was being supplied with everything they needed to survive, then they would have a free choice as to wether or not to work WITH me and share in the profits as I offer... If I didnt offer enough to compensate for the work they would do, they wouldn't need to take the job.

Without the basic needs being available for everyone, that choice is taken away, either they work and accept what is offered them or they starve and die.

The second way is the way a system without taxes or government is... That is not freedom... That is oppression.

The worst of it is that some of those who are being oppressed are happy to argue in support of the second system, simply because they arent being oppressed as much as others are...

That is a sad reflection upon those people.

 

You began with the issue being promoted as 'taxes' and how they should be applied, which seems to be all that is under attack. I'm curious as to how and why you began to feel that 'you' were coming under attack, when your responses to questions or disagreement quickly resulted in becoming offensive.

Personally, I would prefer a State run tax system with Federal taxes collected as originally laid out in the Constitution.

 

You wouldn't understand it... being among those that are 'more intelligent' things like that are way too far below your level of intelligence.

 

I think you have a good argument. Just because someone has the opportunity to hire people in China for a $1/day doesn't make it right. In a free market if it can be done then it's automatically labeled as "just", but if survival is used as leverage that's immoral.

 

Wages in China are much more than $1/day, especially for those who work for foreign owned businesses, but much less than the wages paid workers in the U.S. or Europe. As such the consumers in the U.S. and Europe as well as many other countries around the world benefit by making products available to them at a much lower price than they otherwise would cost. Living costs in China are much lower and by bringing jobs to them they, (the Chinese), are able to move out of poverty. It's a win-win situation, jobs abroad and lower prices at home, and isn't the intent to move people out of poverty? Where's the 'Progressive' moral attitude when it comes to sharing with 3rd world countries? Isn't it time the developed world nations stopped just stealing their resources from them?

 

Yes, it is... just like it's time that the 'developed' people stop stealing resources from those less developed.

 

Is it "envy" if you've been relegated to the "back of the bus", or kept from voting, for years, and suddenly decide to stand up and fight for your share?