Taking Requests

This is not bad. Not bad at all. BTW, did C. Bukowski provide the words of your sig quote? I am a big fan of both his fiction and poetry. I just wish the academic world would give him the respect he deserves.

--QP

 

If I see a work that has some positive features then ill have some positive things to say. I will not, however, lie and blow smoke.

I will continue to critique peoples works as I react to them, and do it with integrity and honesty.

It's unfortunate, though not a big surprise, that 99% of the works posted are not very talent laden. In a word, complete shit (even mine).

I can expand on this more if you require it of me (and do it with pleasure). Also, I want to quickly point out that I do not cover anything up with any sort of smoke screen gestures.

Thanks friend,

love n light.

P.S I request the word: Mozart.

 

Did you ever think that maybe your standards are just too high?

In the words of Thumper's father, "If can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."

Normally, I wouldn't agree with this in regards to critiquing since a critique is supposed to help an artist better their work, but your posts never say anything constructive.

On topic: Lips.

 

I'll be more constructive next go at it. Thanks for pointing that out. I think I need to be.

I don't think I have any standards really (if you were to read a few of my works you'd realize that right off the batt). I just know what I like and what I don't. It is personal and I'm not afraid to give my two cents in an honest way.

I always thought Thumper's dad was a pussy lol.

love n light.

 

Honesty is definitely a thing to be respected this day and age. So few people adhere to it. It just seemed like you were trying to come off as a dick. lol

He may have been a pussy, but he was a pussy that got a lot of pussy. Did you see how many siblings Thumper had?

 

Thanks QP!!! Not to take away from Zorba, at all, but I just wanted to share that. I liked it. And yes, my sig quote is the name of Bukowski book. I love Bukowski, he's a big inspiration, and that title is just so cool.

I would hardly describe your responses to people's work as full of "honesty and integrity." No, in fact, I believe what you're doing is outright bullying and belittling. I believe your exact words, in response to poor Sugarplum's lament for her lost loved one was, and I quote, "Zzzzzz." Wow, such integrity. How do you do it, you eloquent bastard?

And yes, I went and looked at your poetry. Hardly anything worth the air of self-righteousness and arrogance you seem to carry yourself with. Just back off and let people do their thing, would you?

As my friend Tyedye pointed out, there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, in fact it is healthy and welcomed here. But your standards are much too high, and your tone is uncalled for. People are trying their best to express themselves in the only way they know how, and they don't need that shit from you or anyone else. Thank you, "friend."

Peace.

 

Sorry to cut in on Zorbas thread, but what are your qualifications to critique anyone's poetry? Poetry is just an expression of thoughts, feelings or emotions put into words. Just because you dont care for a style or subject or writing method means nothing. There can really be no bad poetry, what some find bad for others may be wonderful and entertaining to others, its all subjective.

 

There was Mozart in the cathedrals
that rang with the rifles' reprise.
There was Mozart in the sailing ships
on the high seas of windy Troy.
But where was Mozart in the rifle rain?
Where in the flaming skeletons,
tossed by the sea?
Where was Mozart in the gulag?

 

Sylvia Plath died in England.
Perhaps it was a cold, grey
relentless day;
perhaps it was calm and warm,
a stream of sunshine bursting from the shutters,
illuminating the oven door.

 

On remembering your lips, I often ask myself
'were there really only two?'
How could I count them or quantify them?
By what name could I call them
when they called me by none?
By what force of will could I have broken free of them,
only to realize-

 

I really like that, man. Very much the same kind of thing that I'm trying to do here with these short poems.

As to all this other drama, it's not that big an issue. What I'm doing has artistic value; I know this. Some people may not like it, which is fine. One thing I don't appreciate is being talked down to. As others (and you yourself) have said, rambleON, your poetry doesn't exactly qualify you as a master of the craft. But hey, nobody's perfect. If you have some constructive criticism to offer, I'm glad to have it.

Also, I want to say thanks to everyone who has provided words/phrases and generally been encouraging throughout the thread. Keep 'em coming!

 

In response to everybody:

Let me read and critique in peace. I don't impede on your right to do so. I have the right as you all do to comment.

 

inbloom I'm sorry if you feel that my responses and reactions to others work is not full of honesty and integrity. How to you measure my level of honesty and or integrity, really? It's all very subjective and for better or worse you'll just have to take my word for it, honestly. Like the old saying goes, different folks, different strokes? Or, one mans trash, another mans treasure? Something like that, yes.

Thank you for reading my stuff. I agree it is not that worthy of my reactions to other members works...wait that sounds bad. Actually, I think that you don't need any level of accomplishment to have a opinion or thought of a particular work. Like, do you need to be a Oscar nominated director to realize a good movie from a bad one? What I'm saying is that you don't need to be a good writer to discern or react to poem penned by someone else. It just doesn't work that way.

Please back off from me and let me do my own thing. I certainly didn't ask you to critique my critiques. And if we ascribe to your philosophy regarding poetry then their is no such thing as a standard.

yellowcab, what are your qualifications? Mine are that I can think, react and enjoy reading. I know what I like is another highlight. And add this to my resume: I can formulate an opinion just like you.

If poetry is just expressions of thoughts, feelings or emotions put into words then I guess so are my critiques. Poetry means a lot of things to a lot of different people. I have equal rights to express whatever I may wish, as do this entire community. And yes, since we put some parameters or boundaries surrounding poetry, I feel that there can and is such a thing as bad writing. If there wasn't, wouldn't we all be published?

It is all subjective.

Peace.



Thank you Zobra the Grape for taking my request !

 

"By what name could I call them
when they called me by none?"
I love that in particular. Great poem.

I like the abrupt, cut off ending as well.

 

Thanks a lot, man!! That means a lot, especially since your work inspired me to give it a go. I'm glad you liked it!

And I'm sorry about the whole drama thing going on here, I'm just trying to defend people's right to post their work without recieving rude comments. Constructive criticism is very welcomed, like I said, but I don't think that's what rambleON is offering.

You're right, rambleON. You don't need to be an amazingly talented writer to be able to have an opinion or be able to critique others art. But because of the fact that you're aware that your poetry isn't some amazing standard to which others need to measure themselves, maybe you should learn to be a little more polite about your critiques. I think you're not hearing me when I say that we all welcome the critiquing, as long as it's done with respect to the writer, and I honestly don't see that out of you. Show me some of your responses and illustrate how I'm wrong here. Saying things like, "Zzzzz" and "I would need a speech impediment to even understand this" is not polite, respectful, or constructive.

If you want me to back off from you, then please do the same and back off from us and our poetry. Because the same right that you feel allows you to post those comments, also allows us to comment on your comments. So practice what you preach, just maybe, hmmm??

Peace

 

Also, staying on topic, Zorba the new poems are great! I would also love to read some of your regular poetry, as well.

And my new phrase is: A mild interest in Tai Chi.

 

Excuse me? "Back off from US and OUR poetry?"Last time I checked I was a part of this community. I have contributed more critiques and out put more poems than a lot of people here combined. So don't isolate me from the group and make this a selective good-Ole-boys club. IF you don't like what I have to say, then too fucking bad. You aren't not a member of this section just because you say nice things...it doesn't work that way in a free speech forum. This is the last I'll say regarding my critques.


Peace.

 

Poem about aliens, anal sex, and coffee

 

Been really busy, but I'll get to these soon. I haven't forgotten

 

You are the modern woman;
with your way with words,
your letters to state representatives,
and your outspoken agendas;
with your eagle eyesight
and your Humian skepticism,
your eastern mysticism,
and your mild interest in Tai Chi.
You know I love you, modern woman:
why don't you love me?